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13-11-2017, 12:51   #1
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http://www.thestar.co.uk/news/launch...heme-1-8854491

Ours will be from OFO. It says 3-speed hub but I think that they are fitting a low range hub on them.

https://www.ofo.com/

Was in Manchester last week and their Mo bikes seem to be doing well now after the kids have got bored of chucking them in canals. Lots of them in the city centre and I saw one right out at Chorlton

Actually, I've noticed a big increase in cycling in Manchester over the last few years so maybe that Dutch-style infrastructure they've put along Oxford Road is working. (Sheffield chose not to bid for money from that fund)
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13-11-2017, 14:21   #2
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I just wonder how many of the 1,000 bikes will still be around after a year. No mention of how this charge is paid either.
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Actually, I've noticed a big increase in cycling in Manchester over the last few years so maybe that Dutch-style infrastructure they've put along Oxford Road is working. (Sheffield chose not to bid for money from that fund)
If the Netherlands had Sheffield's hills then I very much doubt they'd have many cyclists (and Manchester is pretty flat as well).
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If the Netherlands had Sheffield's hills then I very much doubt they'd have many cyclists (and Manchester is pretty flat as well).
This hill thing often comes up. I don't buy it.

The east side of Sheffield is flat, the 5 river valleys give easy riding corridors. There are ways to zig-zag up the valley sides. My favourite route from Hillsborough to Walkley does just that.

What is hardly ever mentioned is just how windy it can get in those flat countries like the Netherlands can get. Give me a 5-mile commute in Sheffield any day over 5 miles into a headwind with no shelter.

That being said Sheffield does seem to be the capital of the electric bike revolution. They are all over the place but you often don't notice them Keep watching as I hear rumours that there will be an electric hire bike service coming to Sheffield on day r
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Sounds like you'll be able to pick up and drop off in more places than the current scheme, which will be good!
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The east side of Sheffield is fairly sparsely populated - and the Netherlands has no valley sides where you need to zig zag up a few hundred feet.

Odd isn't it that the places with the highest numbers of bikes (thinking of say Cambridge and York) are flat.
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I just wonder how many of the 1,000 bikes will still be around after a year. No mention of how this charge is paid either.
A fair bit of scrap value to be had there.
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If the Netherlands had Sheffield's hills then I very much doubt they'd have many cyclists (and Manchester is pretty flat as well).
The Netherlands has the Netherlands' headwinds. Hence all the windmills.
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A fair bit of scrap value to be had there.
they'll be fitted with trackers, motion sensors and mobile connectivity I should imagine so they'll know when they're being stolen and inform the police.
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The Netherlands has the Netherlands' headwinds. Hence all the windmills.
Not every day in the Netherlands is windy by any means - away from the coast you're looking at something like 300 days a year without a strong breeze.

https://www.currentresults.com/Weath...eed-annual.php

The hills in Sheffield are here every day.
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I'm looking forward to my first OFO!

The great thing about hills, is they're not as hard as you softies seem to think, and it's all downhill on the other side
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As a Dutchman I would say - I could cycle 60 km around a sea-inlet, not with ease, but I could. A year later I moved to Sheffield and I struggled to get to the end of my road in Hillsborough.

The difference - one is an aerobic sport (cycling in against wind) the other is an anaerobic sport (burst of energy to climb a hill).

It really is that simple. Having said that, it is a good job Sheffield is becoming more bike-friendly.
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13-11-2017, 21:05   #14
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I'm looking forward to my first OFO!

The great thing about hills, is they're not as hard as you softies seem to think, and it's all downhill on the other side

That is the worst bit for me if i commuted by bike on the way to work is all down rather steep hills for a first few miles, so by the time i have to do any pedalling im bloody freezing. So then when you cant wait to get home its all up hill so feels like it takes ages...well that's my excuse for been a lazy git.
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I think that this sort of scheme could be really helpful for round town and going out in a whole selection of directions. I'd avoid coming up Walkley way if you've only got three gears though!

I used to make it up and down Palm Street in Walkley by bike and it was actually coming down that was far more hazardous, partly because it was the end of my ride so my brake pads were already rather warm and partly because I was usually coming down the hill with a rucksack and two panniers full of shopping.
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I just wonder how many of the 1,000 bikes will still be around after a year. No mention of how this charge is paid either.
It says you have to download an app and the charge will go through your mobile.
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I read about this scheme and how it's working in Manchester.
There was someone trying to pick up bikes out in some suburb, and despite being registered as 'at' some location, the bikes were either in a canal, or locked in someones back garden (he amusingly tried to get one of these bikes and got told that it was privately owned now).

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https://www.theguardian.com/commenti...w-how-to-share

Here's the link, quite amusing, but seems to dispute the idea that it's working in Manchester.

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Two weeks on and I fear that a dream is all it was. There are Mobikes in the canal, Mobikes in bins and I am fed up with following the app to a residential street where there is clearly a Mobike stashed in someone’s garden. On launch day, the Chinese designer told me the bikes were basically indestructible and should last four years without maintenance. It took a matter of hours before local scallies worked out how to disable the GPS trackers and smash off the back wheel locks.
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I had reason to drive to Manchester last week. It was a beautiful clear crisp late autumn day - not a cloud in the sky or a breath of wind. Lovely. Just as we joined the M67, we could just catch sight of Manchester. Over it was a dirty yellowy brown cloud of smog. It was like something out of the 1930s, it was quite striking.

I wouldn't cycle there!
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15-11-2017, 10:47   #19
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If the Netherlands had Sheffield's hills then I very much doubt they'd have many cyclists (and Manchester is pretty flat as well).
Hills aren't a problem as long as the bike has low gears.

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Not every day in the Netherlands is windy by any means - away from the coast you're looking at something like 300 days a year without a strong breeze.

https://www.currentresults.com/Weath...eed-annual.php

The hills in Sheffield are here every day.
Personally, I prefer a 'problem' that's consistent over one that occurs frequently but at random, as it tends to be easier to run a solution.

In this case, ensuring my bike has low enough gears that Sheffield hills are not a problem.

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As a Dutchman I would say - I could cycle 60 km around a sea-inlet, not with ease, but I could. A year later I moved to Sheffield and I struggled to get to the end of my road in Hillsborough.

The difference - one is an aerobic sport (cycling in against wind) the other is an anaerobic sport (burst of energy to climb a hill).

It really is that simple. Having said that, it is a good job Sheffield is becoming more bike-friendly.
It's only anaerobic if the cyclist has to stand up on the pedals/apply great force, as this is using the big thigh muscles, which is anaerobic, thus leading to a buildup of lactic acid in the muscles. That is not sustainable and, at some point, the muscles will fail.

If the cyclist is in a very low gear, they remain on the seat and 'spin' up, this is primarily aerobic, using much less effort from the leg muscles, and, is sustainable.

I used to know one of the people who drove the big cargo tricycles around Sheffield- those weighed far more than any bike, plus carried large loads. He also said Sheffield hills were not a problem, due to the extreme low gearing on the trikes.
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This sounds like a neat idea but can I ask what happens if I borrow a bike and ride it home to Ranmoor from town on a Saturday afternoon, and ride it back on Sunday?
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