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16-01-2018, 08:46   #81
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No survey needs to have been done. By definition in a (non homogenous) group 50% of the group will be below and 50% above the average. It's inherent in the very definition of what an average is.
I do think it, and I think it because it's a statistical certainty, a truism, it was in fact a little bit of a play on words based on what average means.
Here's what you said. No mention of how that population is distributed, not that it is in any way relevant to determining the mean average.

My example used a non-homogenous group, and showed that less than 50 percent were above average.

Mean average is simply calculated by summing the data points and dividing by the number of data points.

It isn't defined as the "50% of the group will be below and 50% above the average".

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16-01-2018, 09:34   #82
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I have not once said that i voted to leave because of foreign workers,not once.My best friend is an immigrant why would i not like foreigners.I voted leave because i believe the European union to be an undemocratic organisation of unelected individuals telling us which countries we can deal with outside the eu,and imposing import taxes on these items.The eu does not seem to recognise democracy or fair world trade.The debacle of trying to deport criminals and terrorists who cost the country millions of pounds after some judge in Brussels decided it was against their human rights.Stop insinuating that everybody who voted leave is a xenophobe or racist.Most of these lies are being peddled by the young and especially the millennial champagne socialists.And on a note i do not read the Daily Mail or any other newspaper,i have better things to spend money on than newspapers.
My response to this appears to have been removed, - presumably by a mod because of the ongoing brexit theme. So I have posted a new response over on the brexit thread.
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16-01-2018, 19:15   #83
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Here's what you said. No mention of how that population is distributed, not that it is in any way relevant to determining the mean average.

My example used a non-homogenous group, and showed that less than 50 percent were above average.

Mean average is simply calculated by summing the data points and dividing by the number of data points.

It isn't defined as the "50% of the group will be below and 50% above the average".
No mention of how the population is distributed, well, I apologise for not explaining that intelligence is a normal distribution. Now you know.
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16-01-2018, 22:47   #84
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Personally, I think there is more chance of a UK resident to suffer crime from an EU migrant than vice versa. Just google it. For more rapes, murders and violent crimes from migrants.

PS I once did some research into Trumps "Mexicans are rapists" statement and was shocked.

One state, can't remember which one, maybe Texas reported (the stats are there if you want to look) 800 women along the border (I know its a large area) were raped by Mexican illegal immigrants. The data also stated that "Coyotes" the name for traffickers and not the wild dogs rape 80% of the women who enter the USA through this route...

This is where Trumps states, "they send us their rapists".... meaning Mexico does nothing to stop them crossing the border...

I'll try to find the data...
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16-01-2018, 23:04   #85
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Won't increased competition from oversea/EU students disadvantage the native population from getting into UNI?
Similar to the current demand on the NHS. The native population hasn't increased in size as much compared to the newcomers on top of everyone all living longer will serious illnesses that don't kill us straight away. Instead we end up needing long term palliative care. The countries infrastructure has never increased to cope with such a demand.
If the native population cant get into university, either they haven't got the money thanks to tuition fees of 9,250 a term courtesy of the Tories, or because they're not clever enough, simple as.
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No mention of how the population is distributed, well, I apologise for not explaining that intelligence is a normal distribution. Now you know.
IQ assessment is designed to create a specific symmetrical distribution for each cohort tested so that there is the same pecentage throughout the different age groups. The mean average person in that age group is always 100.

However IQ tests cannot really accurately assess people of all ages and abilities.

There are probably hundreds of other test used in hundreds for different reasons in different situations. Many are good only for a certain cohort and become increasingly inaccurate away fro the target group.

In schools data is collected which can be used to compare the difference between their incoming students and outcomes. No two schools have the same distribution and very few have anything approaching normal distriution.
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No mention of how the population is distributed, well, I apologise for not explaining that intelligence is a normal distribution.
In a city with universities and a high population of graduates is intelligence then a normal distribution compared to a city with the opposite? That is of course assuming that higher education means higher intelligence.
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Since I merely reference half the people it's unlikely that I meant "in Sheffield" don't you think? It was in the context of UK referendum, so perhaps I meant in the UK, although without qualification I could have simply meant in the world.
Either way, still just a quip, why don't you just drop it and leave the thread to die a natural dead. DNR.
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In a city with universities and a high population of graduates is intelligence then a normal distribution compared to a city with the opposite? That is of course assuming that higher education means higher intelligence.



I don't think it does. When I was at Uni some of the people were thick. They just rehashed others words in essays.

Exams should be mandatory for all assessments.
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