ukdobby   223 #1 Posted April 27, 2018 (edited) So a guy with 30 convictions of driving with no license or insurance kills 2 kids,who's to blame for this dirt still behind a wheel? Edited April 27, 2018 by ukdobby Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
El Cid   213 #2 Posted April 27, 2018 (edited) So a guy with 30 convictions of driving with no license or insurance kills 3 kids,who's to blame for this dirt still behind a wheel?  Theresa May  http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-coventry-warwickshire-43926623 Edited April 27, 2018 by El Cid Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Bob Arctor   11 #3 Posted April 27, 2018 The motoring industry and lobbying groups are very strong in the UK. Cars have taken over our culture. In 1971, 80% of British 7 and 8 year olds walked to school on their own - it's very different now because they are not safe from cars. If you kill someone with a car you get treated very differently than if you kill them with something else. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
redfox   10 #4 Posted April 27, 2018 So a guy with 30 convictions of driving with no license or insurance kills 3 kids,who's to blame for this dirt still behind a wheel?   The driver is to blame. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
willman   10 #5 Posted April 27, 2018 So a guy with 30 convictions of driving with no license or insurance kills 3 kids,who's to blame for this dirt still behind a wheel?  Society - especially those who turn a blind eye,refuse to grass someone up for breaking the law or think everyone deserves a second,third or thirtieth chance. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Cyclone   10 #6 Posted April 27, 2018 So a guy with 30 convictions of driving with no license or insurance kills 3 kids,who's to blame for this dirt still behind a wheel?  Why is anyone other than the driver responsible? He'd just got out of jail, so it's not like he hadn't been punished before.  Not that this makes it better, but in the interests of accuracy, it's 2 brothers, not 3. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Delayed   461 #7 Posted April 27, 2018 So a guy with 30 convictions of driving with no license or insurance kills 3 kids,who's to blame for this dirt still behind a wheel?  Thatcher Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
El Cid   213 #8 Posted April 27, 2018 The driver is to blame.  Both the driver and the passenger will be locked up, no mention has been made about a drug rehabilitation program. Our laws are to blame, because the offender has not received the correct punishment/rehabilitation prior to this crime.  He'd just got out of jail, so it's not like he hadn't been punished before. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
hauxwell   243 #9 Posted April 27, 2018 I think he’s got a lenient sentence for what he’s done. Could not believe it when the judge only gave him 9 years for killing these two young children. I hope the family appeal against it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
ukdobby   223 #10 Posted April 27, 2018 Why is anyone other than the driver responsible? He'd just got out of jail, so it's not like he hadn't been punished before. Not that this makes it better, but in the interests of accuracy, it's 2 brothers, not 3.  Obviously his punishment wasn't enough before,apologies it should have read 2. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
andyofborg   11 #11 Posted April 27, 2018 I think he’s got a lenient sentence for what he’s done. Could not believe it when the judge only gave him 9 years for killing these two young children. I hope the family appeal against it.  the family cant appeal against it, the cps might do,  however, as someone above has already pointed out, the sentences related to death/injury caused by driving are far less than those caused by other means. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
redfox   10 #12 Posted April 27, 2018 the family cant appeal against it, the cps might do, however, as someone above has already pointed out, the sentences related to death/injury caused by driving are far less than those caused by other means.   the family (anyone can - anyone on SF can) can write to the Attorney General/(local cps usually)and ask that the sentence be reviewed as being unduly lenient. If they do then the CPS will ask for advice from the Prosecutor. There is a specific CPS process for these types of unduly lenient reviews - and very tight time-frames. The advice from the prosecutor has to be considered by the senior crown prosecutor for the area and then the case is sent to the Attorney Generals office who will usually instruct Treasury Counsel (very senior and specially appointed to do the Govt's legal work) or senior barristers to deal with the appeal. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...