melthebell   862 #37 Posted January 9, 2016 Okay. If you say so. Remind me where the SDP came from. sigh   as i said, the far right do it regularly, not just once Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
unbeliever   10 #38 Posted January 9, 2016 sigh  as i said, the far right do it regularly, not just once   You dismissed the Labour in fighting as not significant as it does not rise to pieces of the party breaking off. You cited the fact that the BNP is a splinter from another party as proof of this. I simply reminded you that the same thing happened to Labour, hence the SDP, thus completely invalidating your point. It's all there in black and white for anybody to read. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Eric Arthur   10 #39 Posted January 10, 2016 Yes, I'm here now Mister M. I was enjoying a lovely dinner with friends in a very smart restaurant.  Annie Bynnol has comprehensively this to be a massive load of tosh. Ha!  Rubbish. I was working from memory, not Google, it's what smarter and more learned folk do sometimes. Try it.  But in light of a Wikipedia cut and paste standing in for actual knowledge let's make the timeline more accurate. Oswald Moseley started off as a conservative, Oswald Moseley then found the labour movement more attractive to his ideals, Oswald Moseley then finally come out as a fully fledged fascist.  Note well his personal journey as it's no advert for socialism, although conservatism comes out of it reasonably well if you think the timeline is important.  Then you need to deal with the inconvenient fact that the British fascist movement, through the BNP, to UKIP draws it's followers from people who are traditionally Labour voters.  Please accept my condolances for springing the trap that you set for yourself.    PS , did you know that Suffragettes set up, funded and ran the fascists? It gets terribly complicated and embarrasing when you try to claim higher moral ground. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
El Cid   214 #40 Posted January 10, 2016  It would be interesting to compare the BUF's policies with Corbyns.  It would be interesting to compare the policies of the BNP and Donald Trump, perhaps people prefer their parties headed by rich boys using nice words. Its not just the policies that matter, but whether people like the person leading the party. In my local area a BNP council was elected, he was university educated nice young family man, but with some bovver boy past. So he only lasted one term. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
unbeliever   10 #41 Posted January 10, 2016 It would be interesting to compare the policies of the BNP and Donald Trump, perhaps people prefer their parties headed by rich boys using nice words. Its not just the policies that matter, but whether people like the person leading the party. In my local area a BNP council was elected, he was university educated nice young family man, but with some bovver boy past. So he only lasted one term.   You go right ahead. I don't think you'll find much in common between them. In the US you have the small government "right" and the religious "right". They don't have all that much in common, and are united only by the fact that they're no fan of the public sector unions who largely run the "left". Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...