Halibut   12 #229 Posted October 12, 2018 Not my fight ,so why would i get involved ?  You wouldn't - as you've already explained, you'd look the other way - moral cowardice and selfishness writ large.  Decent people, people with a backbone, people with moral fibre, people who care about others, do what they can to help. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
rudds1   102 #230 Posted October 12, 2018 I'd say most people would. Despite all the newspaper articles, the vast majority of stabbings are by teenage boys on other teenage boys. Although this is cause for concern in itself, these kids rarely pose any threat to anyone not immediately connected to them and their mates.  Well said ,most people have nothing to worry about .these attacks are nearly always targeted Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
dutch   68 #231 Posted October 12, 2018 (edited) You wouldn't - as you've already explained, you'd look the other way - moral cowardice and selfishness writ large. Decent people, people with a backbone, people with moral fibre, people who care about others, do what they can to help.  Decent with a moral backbone fibre? It would not surprise me some daddy uncle or grandpa has hammered that in someones head who now thinks it is morally neccesary to get involved with some people with knifes. These fights happen mostly between people who know each other or who are both in the mood for it. If one of them were to run hard away instead of looking for conflict. Not like a coward but simply not to get involved with things like stabbing one another it will put less fuel on the conflict. Edited October 12, 2018 by dutch Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
The Joker   10 #232 Posted October 12, 2018 Another stabbing tonight in Parson Cross according to the Star https://www.thestar.co.uk/news/crime/cordon-in-place-outside-sheffield-takeaway-amid-reports-of-stabbing-1-9393016  Wow, the first stabbing in a fortnight  Looks like the streets are getting safer Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
tinfoilhat   11 #233 Posted October 12, 2018 As point of reference, there were no deaths from stabbing in Scotland in 2017, and there are pockets of poverty that Sheffield can't compare to and they've also suffered cuts. They've been treating it as a public health issue. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
alchresearch   214 #234 Posted October 12, 2018 As point of reference, there were no deaths from stabbing in Scotland in 2017,  But plenty in 2018. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
prince al   167 #235 Posted October 12, 2018 Can't believe that the Lowedges murderer only received 2 or 3 years incarceration. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
The Joker   10 #236 Posted October 12, 2018 Can't believe that the Lowedges murderer only received 2 or 3 years incarceration.  yeah, I couldn't believe the sentence either, since you can get more than that simply for being found in possession of a knife:  The maximum penalty for an adult carrying a knife is 4 years in prison and an unlimited fine. You’ll get a prison sentence if you’re convicted of carrying a knife more than once.  https://www.gov.uk/buying-carrying-knives  Did the murderer get a lower sentence 'cos he was "only" 15 at the time? Not really a strong deterrent that, is it? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
tinfoilhat   11 #237 Posted October 12, 2018 But plenty in 2018.  The lady in from the snp didn't mention that Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
the_bloke   17 #238 Posted October 12, 2018 As point of reference, there were no deaths from stabbing in Scotland in 2017, and there are pockets of poverty that Sheffield can't compare to and they've also suffered cuts. They've been treating it as a public health issue.  That's only for under 18s though. Plenty of stabbings amongst adults.  https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/uk-scotland-41564973 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Branyy   10 #239 Posted October 12, 2018 yeah, I couldn't believe the sentence either, since you can get more than that simply for being found in possession of a knife: The maximum penalty for an adult carrying a knife is 4 years in prison and an unlimited fine. You’ll get a prison sentence if you’re convicted of carrying a knife more than once.  https://www.gov.uk/buying-carrying-knives  Did the murderer get a lower sentence 'cos he was "only" 15 at the time? Not really a strong deterrent that, is it?  Maybe the decision took into account that the murderer did not posses the knife? Maybe the conflict wasn't that one-sided? Maybe the judge has better knowledge of the case than you do? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
The Joker   10 #240 Posted October 12, 2018 Maybe the decision took into account that the murderer did not posses the knife? Maybe the conflict wasn't that one-sided? Maybe the judge has better knowledge of the case than you do?  yeah, I read that after I posted  He was stabbed with his own knife.  I guess if you’re gonna live by the sword . . . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...