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14-02-2018, 15:28   #81
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In all the Lodges I have attended, I have never seen an image of an owl.
This thread has become quite ridiculous.
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14-02-2018, 16:50   #82
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In all the Lodges I have attended, I have never seen an image of an owl.
This thread has become quite ridiculous.
There is a lot of bull crap talked about Freemasonry, from both conspiracy theorists saying everything about it is dodgy, and those who are members that paint nothing but a rosy picture.
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14-02-2018, 19:13   #83
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Dear God, how pathetically pedantic can you get? If I cannot get the exact terminology right it's because I am not a Mason, I therefore bow to your greater knowledge on the minutiae of Freemasonry, I take it you are..

None of this detracts from the facts that David Duckenfield by his own admission was a Mason, and this was thought by QC Michael Mansfield (and the Hillsborough victims families,) to have a bearing on the case.

" Duckenfield became a Mason in 1975, had been part of the organisation for 14 years at the time of the Hillsborough disaster, becoming a Worshipful Master of his local Lodge a year later.'
'At the time it was not seen as acceptable to be a senior policeman and a Freemason.' ... Can you tell me why not?
'Hillsborough Commander (Duckenfield) was in same Lodge as the officer he replaced (Brian Mole)

http://www.itv.com/news/update/2015-...was-freemason/

https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news...d-same-8124374

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/...nic-conspiracy

Now what exactly was wrong enough to garner your description of 'a load of cobblers?'

To get back to the original point of the Thread (remember that?) IMO Freemasonry and other influential secret societies are open to claims of corruption in high places, and therefore have no place in government organisations.
The thing is, you need to make a case that any of this matters at all. You've not done that. nobody cares
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14-02-2018, 19:29   #84
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The thing is, you need to make a case that any of this matters at all. You've not done that. nobody cares
JFK wasn't a fan.

https://youtu.be/FnkdfFAqsHA
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