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17-04-2017, 14:31   #1
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Has anyone else tried to email Julie Dore regarding an issue. I emailed my local MP and they responded promptly, but as yet no response from the office of the leader of Sheffield City Council. I've heard horror stories from people who have had responses to queries that don't even relate to the topic that was initially put forward. I can't wait for the day when she loses as she is utterly useless.
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17-04-2017, 14:35   #2
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17-04-2017, 16:25   #3
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Has anyone else tried to email Julie Dore regarding an issue. I emailed my local MP and they responded promptly, but as yet no response from the office of the leader of Sheffield City Council. I've heard horror stories from people who have had responses to queries that don't even relate to the topic that was initially put forward. I can't wait for the day when she loses as she is utterly useless.
I don't know why you're singling out Julie Dore, the entire Sheffield Council is useless. And will probably continue to be so unless we vote in a decent, oppositional, and go-getting person as Mayor who will stir things up...

But what's the betting we get another useless ex Labour Councillor in the job.

You have been warned...
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17-04-2017, 17:00   #4
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we need to have this city on knife edge pardon the pun,because when labour have a clear lead ,they do what they want ,not what the people who elected them want,so vote lib/dem and you will find that if its close whoevers in power will work better for the public than it is now.
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17-04-2017, 17:11   #5
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I don't know why you're singling out Julie Dore, the entire Sheffield Council is useless. And will probably continue to be so unless we vote in a decent, oppositional, and go-getting person as Mayor who will stir things up...

But what's the betting we get another useless ex Labour Councillor in the job.

You have been warned...
On the whole, I sadly have to agree.

However, I must say that in my dealings - Not ALL of them are useless. I did think Cllr Ibrar Hussain and Cllr Ian Auckland were excellent - extremely dedicated and highly efficient.

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17-04-2017, 17:29   #6
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we need to have this city on knife edge pardon the pun,because when labour have a clear lead ,they do what they want ,not what the people who elected them want,so vote lib/dem and you will find that if its close whoevers in power will work better for the public than it is now.
I agree.

I also wish more Sheffield people would attend council meetings and take the council to task over issues they disagree with. Anyone can attend and you can ask tabled questions, which the councillors have to reply to publicly. (Bit like question time.) Also write to your councillors, go to see them at their monthly surgeries, and keep on top of them. Take an interest.

We have to take local politics seriously, it affects everyone's daily life. If we don't, we will get what we deserve and they will get away with murder...
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17-04-2017, 17:35   #7
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I agree.

I also wish more Sheffield people would attend council meetings and take the council to task over issues they disagree with. Anyone can attend and you can ask tabled questions, which the councillors have to reply to publicly. (Bit like question time.) Also write to your councillors, go to see them at their monthly surgeries, and keep on top of them. Take an interest.

We have to take local politics seriously, it affects everyone's daily life. If we don't, we will get what we deserve and they will get away with murder...
Very good point. We tend to get the politicians we deserve - but not always - with the first past the post system and gerrymandering!

I am interested in your suggestion which I have put in bold.

Do you have any more information on this? How does one go about this? Do you just turn up? Do you have to submit questions a while beforehand formally?
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17-04-2017, 18:26   #8
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Very good point. We tend to get the politicians we deserve - but not always - with the first past the post system and gerrymandering!

I am interested in your suggestion which I have put in bold.

Do you have any more information on this? How does one go about this? Do you just turn up? Do you have to submit questions a while beforehand formally?
You can just attend a Full Council Meeting in good time and advise the Clerk that you wish to ask a question:
http://democracy.sheffield.gov.uk/mg...ls.aspx?ID=154

They do suggest that you may wish to advise them of your question in advance if you wish to receive a more comprehensive reply.
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17-04-2017, 18:36   #9
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Has anyone else tried to email Julie Dore ....
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she is utterly useless.
I don't know this woman so I would not like to comment on how useful she is however, I do know people in the public sector who receive well over 1000 emails every single day and they are far less prominent than her.

For them it is a massive source of frustration and completely impossible to read or reply to them all.

If you think you can contact someone in an important position by email and sort out an issue I think you are being extremely na´ve.

I'd suggest going to a council meeting as the very sensible cgk says above.
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17-04-2017, 18:51   #10
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I don't know this woman so I would not like to comment on how useful she is however, I do know people in the public sector who receive well over 1000 emails every single day and they are far less prominent than her.

For them it is a massive source of frustration and completely impossible to read or reply to them all.

If you think you can contact someone in an important position by email and sort out an issue I think you are being extremely na´ve.

I'd suggest going to a council meeting as the very sensible cgk says above.
I'd be inclined to write to her. If I got a huge load of emails everyday asking questions, and only a few in writing (these days more likely), I know which ones I'd deal with first.
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17-04-2017, 18:55   #11
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Has anyone else tried to email Julie Dore regarding an issue. I emailed my local MP and they responded promptly, but as yet no response from the office of the leader of Sheffield City Council.
You'd be better off e-mailing your ward councillors - they are your first line of contact - same as you'd contact your MP not the Prime Minister.
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17-04-2017, 19:02   #12
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You'd be better off e-mailing your ward councillors - they are your first line of contact - same as you'd contact your MP not the Prime Minister.
But the "Strong Leader" model that Sheffield Council has chosen means that the most you usually get from ward councillors is the party line because they are terrified of the repercussions of disagreeing with Their Glorious Leader.
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17-04-2017, 20:24   #13
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You can just attend a Full Council Meeting in good time and advise the Clerk that you wish to ask a question:
http://democracy.sheffield.gov.uk/mg...ls.aspx?ID=154

They do suggest that you may wish to advise them of your question in advance if you wish to receive a more comprehensive reply.
Exactly. Thanks for the link cgk.
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17-04-2017, 21:28   #14
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I don't know why you're singling out Julie Dore, the entire Sheffield Council is useless. And will probably continue to be so unless we vote in a decent, oppositional, and go-getting person as Mayor who will stir things up...

But what's the betting we get another useless ex Labour Councillor in the job.

You have been warned...
The reason why I am singling out Julie Dore is that as leader of the council she is ultimately accountable. The fact is that I received an email from the MP's office 2 days after my query. Now just imagine how many queries she gets per day and compare her office with the office of the leader of the council in terms of people who work for her.
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17-04-2017, 21:36   #15
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The reason why I am singling out Julie Dore is that as leader of the council she is ultimately accountable. The fact is that I received an email from the MP's office 2 days after my query. Now just imagine how many queries she gets per day and compare her office with the office of the leader of the council in terms of people who work for her.
Could have been lucky, or asked an easy question that had a standard reply. The higher up you email, the more standard presaved messages they'll have (at a guess)

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If I was an MP (or councillor) and got 1000 emails a day, I'd never get anything done! Would you, if you had to respond to them all every day?

She probably doesn't get anything like 1000 per day, but even so,

If on my own dealing with these, I'd probably skim read them and place them in perhaps 5 folders. Ranging from 1. pretty immediate response required - 5. Some moron ranting.

Anything 3 or below would probably end up with a 'standard response' with a varying degree of editing in or out.
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17-04-2017, 21:36   #16
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Try your local Councillor, I mailed mine two years ago and she was brilliant in sorting out a problem for me. I don't know if you did but you ought to have sent the same letter to your local Councillor, Julie Dore and your MP and made sure you put CC at the bottom making sure all parties know who you have mailed. I am not saying it would work but at least they all know who you have contacted about your complaint.
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17-04-2017, 23:07   #17
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I also wish more Sheffield people would attend council meetings and take the council to task
Not an easy thing to tackle. Many social scientists argue that as you increase cultural diversity within our communities there is a corresponding decrease in civic engagement and interaction. Many prominent social scientists like Robert Putnum of Harvard University have studied this interplay for years.
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18-04-2017, 00:15   #18
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just my opinion but I don't have much trust in any of the partys that's in charge , MPs most of em seem to have pay rises for not doing much , and local councillors seem to just do or promote what they are told to do
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18-04-2017, 00:50   #19
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just my opinion but I don't have much trust in any of the partys that's in charge , MPs most of em seem to have pay rises for not doing much , and local councillors seem to just do or promote what they are told to do
Unfortunately, that's pretty much my opinion too.
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18-04-2017, 02:06   #20
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It's high time Julie Dore resigned, but if she hasn't the inclination, it's time we kicked her and rest of her cronies out.
Sheffield could be so much better with a better council, this lot are not fit for purpose, and cannot be trusted or relied on to make good decisions for the future of this city. The way she behaves in council meetings is quite shocking.
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