False allegations. Social services involved - What would you do?

Ill be brief but im interested in what people would do in this situation.

Wife makes false allegations re Domestic violence. She rings the police who turn up mob handed and arrest the husband.

He is interviewed by specialist officers who deal with these allegations on a regular basis and they feel there is no case to answer.

Husband is released with no further action.

Wife repeats these allegations to obtain a non molestation order on the husband. She gets interim order but when it comes time for the final hearing husband is confronted by a barrister acting on his former partners behalf whilst he has to defend himself.

An agreement is made between the husband and the barrister where as the Husband gives an undertaking to the courts on the condition no blame is attached to him. The undertaking was given for various reason not least because the husband still cares for the ex and did not want to show his evidence which would, to put it bluntly humiliate his ex in court.

Skip forward a few weeks and divorce papers appear on the husbands door mat. These same false allegations are again repeated.

As a result of the original allegations and the police involvement Social service are now involved. The husband has both kids living with him the ex lives close by (less than 1.5 miles away) however the social worker seems to have made it her lifes work to believe everything said by the ex and believe nothing said by the husband even sighting the fact he denies her allegations as a 'concern' and also a reason to keep the kids on the at risk register. She also rarely misses an opportunity to downplay his efforts, ignore the improvements to their family life and always seems to try to discredit him and judges him very very harshly even referring to him as an <removed> when he pointed out he can tell she has a low opinion of him and politely asked her why.

However, the ex openly admitted to Social services that some of her allegations were false and it is documented in writing. Both the husband and the kids maintain it was all a work of fiction and have maintained this since this whole sorry episode began. Despite this the social worker still believes everything said by the ex and refuses to believe that if she could be lying about one (rather major) aspect she could be lying about other things.

Two questions.

Question 1. Does the husband have any recourse now he can prove she lied.

Question 2. What should he do about this incredibly impartial social worker?

Sorry for the long post, I did try to be brief.

Thanks for reading this.

In this sort of situation, I would always advise that you should be very clear regarding what specific outcomes you want to achieve. (i.e. What recourse are you expecting?)

Then do your work in finding out if those outcomes can really be achieved and at what cost (financial and emotional).

If so, you can then work methodically and logically towards success.

Make sure that you have hard copies of your "evidence".

Keep dated notes of all meetings and conversations.

In a family case, the stability and well being of the children may have to take precedence.

You appear to have misunderstood the meaning of "impartial".

Presumably her admission of lying means that she's made a false report and perjured herself in court, both offences. I've no idea if the police would investigate or if that would be helpful, but perhaps if she was being investigate/prosecuted for these crimes then the social worker would have to judge her appropriately.

The problem l found in my past is that not only do Social Workers live in a "wooley world" but so do most of the Court officials you have to deal with.

In my case ...many years ago l split with my ex who made similar allegations (all untrue), this was then proved to be total fiction. My young child was then left in her care and l was given access at a weekend via Court. However she messed me about on a regular basis , not turning up or not being at home when l was due to pick up the young one. I must have gone back to court 6 times to try to get her to conform to the Court orders. Half of the time she failed to turn up to court, nothing was ever done about that. She flaunted all the rules around access continually with no consequences. Eventually l did manage to get my child away from her as she was unfit to be a parent (she had 5 more kids afterwards and all were taken off her by the Courts). However it didn't stop there, she even had the audacity to apply for CSA even though my child didn't live with her and hadn't done so for 2 years. His address was completely different to hers and was at a school around the corner from home. We even attended a meeting with the CSA where it was explained that we lived in one place and the mum lived elsewhere, had no contact or anything. It didn't matter, they didn't listen. I still had to pay CSA payments for 12 years to a woman that didn't have contact with her child. Crazy....you bet it was, so good luck with this all. You will certainly need it where Social workers and Courts are involved.

Report the social worker to her line manager, or go higher. Social services will not give a fig about the father, regardless of what the mother has done.

Presumably her admission of lying means that she's made a false report and perjured herself in court, both offences. I've no idea if the police would investigate or if that would be helpful, but perhaps if she was being investigate/prosecuted for these crimes then the social worker would have to judge her appropriately.

Except that it's common with domestic abuse for victims to retract statements and allegations for fear of even worse happening to them, so it's a lot more complicated than what you have posted. I'm not saying I disbelieve the OP but given we are only likely to get one version of this, I am not sure what anyone can usefully contribute other than what cgksheff has posted.

Except that it's common with domestic abuse for victims to retract statements and allegations for fear of even worse happening to them, so it's a lot more complicated than what you have posted. I'm not saying I disbelieve the OP but given we are only likely to get one version of this, I am not sure what anyone can usefully contribute other than what cgksheff has posted.

Just assume for the sake of argument that everything I have posted in my op is 100% accurate and totally correct.

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Presumably her admission of lying means that she's made a false report and perjured herself in court, both offences. I've no idea if the police would investigate or if that would be helpful, but perhaps if she was being investigate/prosecuted for these crimes then the social worker would have to judge her appropriately.

Thanks for your post. The Police are going to be contacted as are the courts to see if they have any interest in pursuing her for lying in the police statement and the court papers.

Thank you again. It was very helpful.

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Report the social worker to her line manager, or go higher. Social services will not give a fig about the father, regardless of what the mother has done.

Thank you. The social workers manager will be spoken to tomorrow. Hopefully a meeting can be arranged to discuss this SW's poor behaviour and lack of professionalism.

Thank you again.

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The problem l found in my past is that not only do Social Workers live in a "wooley world" but so do most of the Court officials you have to deal with.

 

In my case ...many years ago l split with my ex who made similar allegations (all untrue), this was then proved to be total fiction. My young child was then left in her care and l was given access at a weekend via Court. However she messed me about on a regular basis , not turning up or not being at home when l was due to pick up the young one. I must have gone back to court 6 times to try to get her to conform to the Court orders. Half of the time she failed to turn up to court, nothing was ever done about that. She flaunted all the rules around access continually with no consequences. Eventually l did manage to get my child away from her as she was unfit to be a parent (she had 5 more kids afterwards and all were taken off her by the Courts). However it didn't stop there, she even had the audacity to apply for CSA even though my child didn't live with her and hadn't done so for 2 years. His address was completely different to hers and was at a school around the corner from home. We even attended a meeting with the CSA where it was explained that we lived in one place and the mum lived elsewhere, had no contact or anything. It didn't matter, they didn't listen. I still had to pay CSA payments for 12 years to a woman that didn't have contact with her child. Crazy....you bet it was, so good luck with this all. You will certainly need it where Social workers and Courts are involved.

Thats a horrible story. Really shocking to say the least. Hopefully the problem outlined in my op will have a happier ending.

Ill keep you all posted.

Thank you to everyone who has posted.

In another case I know of, however, things are a lot more hopeful.

Multiple allegations were made both against the father by his ex, and against the father's new partner. Allegations of stalking and harassment are really easy to disprove if the person who was allegedly in one place harassing the mother can prove that they were elsewhere by cctv at the time.

Eventually social services and the court have listened to the proof that the mother is lying left, right and centre, and making accusations simply to get her own way. It's been slow, expensive and stressful, but they are listening and she's not getting her own way now.

In another case I know of, however, things are a lot more hopeful.

 

Multiple allegations were made both against the father by his ex, and against the father's new partner. Allegations of stalking and harassment are really easy to disprove if the person who was allegedly in one place harassing the mother can prove that they were elsewhere by cctv at the time.

 

Eventually social services and the court have listened to the proof that the mother is lying left, right and centre, and making accusations simply to get her own way. It's been slow, expensive and stressful, but they are listening and she's not getting her own way now.

Its good to hear things are now on the right track although its very sad its been such a long winded experience. I hope things continue to improve for them.

Ill be brief but im interested in what people would do in this situation.

 

Wife makes false allegations re Domestic violence. She rings the police who turn up mob handed and arrest the husband.

He is interviewed by specialist officers who deal with these allegations on a regular basis and they feel there is no case to answer.

Husband is released with no further action.

 

Wife repeats these allegations to obtain a non molestation order on the husband. She gets interim order but when it comes time for the final hearing husband is confronted by a barrister acting on his former partners behalf whilst he has to defend himself.

An agreement is made between the husband and the barrister where as the Husband gives an undertaking to the courts on the condition no blame is attached to him. The undertaking was given for various reason not least because the husband still cares for the ex and did not want to show his evidence which would, to put it bluntly humiliate his ex in court.

 

Skip forward a few weeks and divorce papers appear on the husbands door mat. These same false allegations are again repeated.

 

As a result of the original allegations and the police involvement Social service are now involved. The husband has both kids living with him the ex lives close by (less than 1.5 miles away) however the social worker seems to have made it her lifes work to believe everything said by the ex and believe nothing said by the husband even sighting the fact he denies her allegations as a 'concern' and also a reason to keep the kids on the at risk register. She also rarely misses an opportunity to downplay his efforts, ignore the improvements to their family life and always seems to try to discredit him and judges him very very harshly even referring to him as an <removed> when he pointed out he can tell she has a low opinion of him and politely asked her why.

However, the ex openly admitted to Social services that some of her allegations were false and it is documented in writing. Both the husband and the kids maintain it was all a work of fiction and have maintained this since this whole sorry episode began. Despite this the social worker still believes everything said by the ex and refuses to believe that if she could be lying about one (rather major) aspect she could be lying about other things.

 

Two questions.

Question 1. Does the husband have any recourse now he can prove she lied.

Question 2. What should he do about this incredibly impartial social worker?

Sorry for the long post, I did try to be brief.

Thanks for reading this.

On such a serious question, maybe professional advice would be the solution, not a webby site forum, just saying.

Angel1.

On such a serious question, maybe professional advice would be the solution, not a webby site forum, just saying.

 

Angel1.

Thats a fair comment mate. Unfortunately cash is thin on the ground so legal help is out of the question.

On such a serious question, maybe professional advice would be the solution, not a webby site forum, just saying.

 

Angel1.

I agree.

Unfortunately any answer received on this forum can only be based on the ops side of the story and this would be biased in his favour.

He needs professional advice, someone who has access to previous hearings et al and can draw a correct course of action based on fact.