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15-07-2018, 17:53   #461
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15-07-2018, 17:56   #462
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Second place, great achievement!
It certainly is, Croatia played very well but France took control in the second half, Pogba and Griezmann in particular.
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15-07-2018, 19:19   #463
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the best team won. They played against two teams, Argentina and Uruguay, who had previously won the tournament and beat them both easily. Not only in the same tournament. but in successive knockout games. That is where France won won the World Cup. It wasn't by beating Belgium and Croatia. France would have beaten Brazil too if Belgium hadn't already done it. France were the best team in it.

since 1966, England have only beaten ONE team who have previously won the tournament, Argentina in 2002, and it wasn't even in the knockout stage.

England could have been there. They could have got to the final. The only question is whether they would have lost 4,5,6,7, or 8-1. With the single goal coming from a set piece of course.

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15-07-2018, 19:58   #464
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When you think about it, it's impressive that France managed to get 4 goals past a team that included one of the world's best defenders.
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15-07-2018, 21:01   #465
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the best team won. They played against two teams, Argentina and Uruguay, who had previously won the tournament and beat them both easily. Not only in the same tournament. but in successive knockout games. That is where France won won the World Cup. It wasn't by beating Belgium and Croatia. France would have beaten Brazil too if Belgium hadn't already done it. France were the best team in it.

since 1966, England have only beaten ONE team who have previously won the tournament, Argentina in 2002, and it wasn't even in the knockout stage.

England could have been there. They could have got to the final. The only question is whether they would have lost 4,5,6,7, or 8-1. With the single goal coming from a set piece of course.
Yes Uruguay were full of confidence straight from their world cup win 88 years ago
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15-07-2018, 21:39   #466
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Yes Uruguay were full of confidence straight from their world cup win 88 years ago
they have not done too badly even in more recent tournaments. It's true the two times they have won it were a long time ago, and they have periods when they have even failed to qualify at all, and which is the biggest black mark any country or team can possibly have, not qualifying in the first place. But Uruguay's record in the World Cup, is not too bad. Since 1950, tournament after tournament, if you add them all up, they have performed better than say Holland have. Better in fact, than any country who has not also won the World Cup.

France's big Achilles Heel is that they have been historically rubbish at qualifying for the final stages at all. They have only made it, for the final stages, of 2/3 of World Cups since 1950 by far the worst, of all the countries the have previously won the World Cup. The 7 other countries that have won the World Cup, Uruguay, Germany, Brazil, England, Italy, and Spain, all have a better record at qualifying, than France have. And, even worse for France, when they do get to the final stages, they are not usually very good, at getting past the group stage. England beat France in both those criteria : qualifying for the World Cup in the first place, and then getting past the group stage when they do.
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15-07-2018, 22:43   #467
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It certainly is, Croatia played very well but France took control in the second half, Pogba and Griezmann in particular.
Their defence was solid too. Croatia bossed the midfield up to 3-1, but it highlights England's major problem. While finalists had pogba, kante modric and rakitic we have Henderson and dier.
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16-07-2018, 07:36   #468
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Giroud was given 7 out of 10 by a BBC sports pundit for the final - what game was he watching?

In the semi final Giroud looked totally out of his depth and in the final even more so. Clumsy,slow and especially unable to control the ball.

Bayern Munich superstar winger Coman can probably match Mpappe for skill and speed and was inexcusably not selected for the squad.

No wonder coach Deuchamps has still not won over the French public.
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16-07-2018, 11:02   #469
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I thought the England team got a poor reception on their arrival home yesterday, I was expecting a better welcome then that after what they achieved.
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I thought the England team got a poor reception on their arrival home yesterday, I was expecting a better welcome then that after what they achieved.
People were told all day long on the radio not to go to the airport as there wasn't a suitable area to see the team.
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16-07-2018, 13:29   #471
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People were told all day long on the radio not to go to the airport as there wasn't a suitable area to see the team.
So that was the reason, I didn't know that.
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16-07-2018, 17:25   #472
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When you think about it, it's impressive that France managed to get 4 goals past a team that included one of the world's best defenders.
Don't forget that one of the goals was a dubious penalty. There was absolutely no intention involved in the handball, it was purely accidental. I am glad that France got the 2 extra goals as it would have been a shame for Croatia had the penalty been the deciding goal.
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16-07-2018, 21:09   #473
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People were told all day long on the radio not to go to the airport as there wasn't a suitable area to see the team.
there could be a story about the various UK airports returning England World Cup teams have returned to. I think in 1990, which was the last time they reached the semis, it was Luton airport where the squad returned, and not Birmingham, like this year.

can we even be sure that the planes the returning England squad climbs on to, are even always going back to England? Have they ever just gone to if not to Prestwick, obviously, then maybe directly to maybe Malaga or Magaluf instead?
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16-07-2018, 22:48   #474
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the best team won. They played against two teams, Argentina and Uruguay, who had previously won the tournament and beat them both easily. Not only in the same tournament. but in successive knockout games. That is where France won won the World Cup. It wasn't by beating Belgium and Croatia. France would have beaten Brazil too if Belgium hadn't already done it. France were the best team in it.

since 1966, England have only beaten ONE team who have previously won the tournament, Argentina in 2002, and it wasn't even in the knockout stage.

England could have been there. They could have got to the final. The only question is whether they would have lost 4,5,6,7, or 8-1. With the single goal coming from a set piece of course.
Yeah, France did great for a non-sporting nation eh?
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17-07-2018, 12:10   #475
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Don't forget that one of the goals was a dubious penalty. There was absolutely no intention involved in the handball, it was purely accidental. I am glad that France got the 2 extra goals as it would have been a shame for Croatia had the penalty been the deciding goal.
I disagree it was a clear penalty, he paused the movement of his arm slightly to make it appear it had come off his raised leg. Penalty all day.
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Not going to argue with this as goal of the World Cup
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25-07-2018, 22:11   #477
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Me neither - three of the goals in that game were out of the top drawer - struggling to think of a World Cup game since 1970 with goals as good.
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28-07-2018, 14:33   #478
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the best goal was Belgium's last minute winner against Japan. One of the best World Cup goals ever. In the situation of the match, totally unbeatable. Knock out game, last few seconds, end to end right down the pitch in 2 passes and 1 shot, and in 5 seconds, and coming from two goals down 25 minutes earlier, to win 3-2 with the last kick of the game. Unbelievable goal.
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31-07-2018, 22:23   #479
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52 years ago today (July 31st) England won the World! Cup. The last World Cup final to be played on an Saturday.
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52 years ago today (July 31st) England won the World! Cup. The last World Cup final to be played on an Saturday.
And the best Saturday night out of my life and the loudest. Me and 3 mates were at Blackpool for the week.
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