hauxwell   235 #37 Posted August 17, 2017 Im no Labour fan , but she spoke the truth and was 100% spot on in the words she choose.  I agree with you. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
kidley   48 #38 Posted August 17, 2017 (edited) How was it revealed to you, and by who? In his response to her resignation letter, Jeremy Corbyn said he looks forward to working with her again soon.  This was stated by more than the guardian, and alot of MPs are still saying it, come on Mister M keep up, and in case you missed it i did ad this, (allegedly)   https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/aug/17/sajid-javid-says-jeremy-corbyn-wrong-to-sack-sarah-champion Edited August 17, 2017 by kidley Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
RJRB Â Â 677 #39 Posted August 17, 2017 I agree with you. Â I believe that her one mistake was by citing Pakistanis rather than Asian.Bangladeshis were also involved. I heard someone else on the radio saying that Muslims were not the problem,but then asking what the Mosques were doing to eradicate the issues. That's like asking vicars to sort out Protestant offenders. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
kidley   48 #40 Posted August 17, 2017 I believe that her one mistake was by citing Pakistanis rather than Asian.Bangladeshis were also involved. I heard someone else on the radio saying that Muslims were not the problem,but then asking what the Mosques were doing to eradicate the issues. That's like asking vicars to sort out Protestant offenders.  Why was it a mistake they are/were predominately Pakistanis that are to blame for these crimes. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
RJRB Â Â 677 #41 Posted August 17, 2017 (edited) Why was it a mistake they are/were predominately Pakistanis that are to blame for these crimes. Â Obvious mistake to me,but if you don't see it ,fair enough. It always helps to be factual when you are making an argument. Edited August 17, 2017 by RJRB Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
kidley   48 #42 Posted August 17, 2017 Obvious mistake to me,but if you don't see it ,fair enough. It always helps to be factual when you are making an argument.  I take your point, but if you dont say it as it is it dont mean anything. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Mister M Â Â 1,575 #43 Posted August 17, 2017 If Corbyn did sack her for speaking out, as Javid claims, then I would not vote for Labour while he was leader. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
crazybaby   10 #44 Posted August 17, 2017 (edited) If Corbyn did sack her for speaking out, as Javid claims, then I would not vote for Labour while he was leader.  "Sarah Champion was sacked by Jeremy Corbyn over Sun article on sexual exploitation of white girls"  https://www.politicshome.com/news/uk/home-affairs/policing/news/88302/sarah-champion-was-sacked-jeremy-corbyn-over-sun-article   Ms Champion officially resigned as shadow equalities minister yesterday following intense criticism over her comments, which she made in an article for The Sun. But it has emerged that Mr Corbyn asked her to quit the Shadow Cabinet-level post - effectively sacking her from the role . In the article she said Britain has a problem with British-Pakistani men raping and exploiting white girls, maybe she should have said issue instead of problem, when it becomes a problem I don't know................. Edited August 17, 2017 by crazybaby link to source Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
mafya   221 #45 Posted August 17, 2017 https://www.politicshome.com/news/uk/home-affairs/policing/news/88302/sarah-champion-was-sacked-jeremy-corbyn-over-sun-article  .  In the article she said Britain has a problem with British-Pakistani men raping and exploiting white girls, maybe she should have said issue instead of problem, when it becomes a problem I don't know.................  my bold= Talk about stereotyping all British Pakistanis! Maybe the word Some should have been used... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Mister M Â Â 1,575 #46 Posted August 17, 2017 my bold= Talk about stereotyping all British Pakistanis! Maybe the word Some should have been used... Â I agree that the word some should have been used. However, it should be self evident to everybody that not all British Pakistani men commit these hideous crimes. Okay Sarah Champion has resigned her shadow front bench role because she didn't qualify the word 'some' in her sentence. However those on the front line of child & vulnerable adult protection services (police, social workers, council officials) who turned a blind eye to the appalling abuse of children and who did nothing are still in their jobs! Add to that, it has been reported that the scandal of these grooming gangs are still continuing. It seems that the lessons of the Jay Report have been forgotten so soon after it was published. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
crazybaby   10 #47 Posted August 17, 2017 (edited) my bold= Talk about stereotyping all British Pakistanis! Maybe the word Some should have been used...[/QUOTe  True, she admits she used a poor choice of words. Although I don't believe this was a generalised belief of Sarahs and so wouldn't in my view point towards a stereotype. Edited August 17, 2017 by crazybaby Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
kidley   48 #48 Posted August 17, 2017 my bold= Talk about stereotyping all British Pakistanis! Maybe the word Some should have been used...  She also said in the report that, the biggest perpetrators of this crime are white males  Talk about stereotyping all white males! Maybe the word Some should have been used. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...