jacc14 10 #1 Posted February 16, 2017 hi my partner is a self employed driver and gets £6.95 per hour and 14p per mile he drives This seems low as he doesn't get the usual employee benefits like holiday and sick pay. Also the I'm not sure 14p will cover his running costs Can anyone suggest an acceptable rate as he is going to ask for some sort of increase thanks jacc14 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
andyofborg 11 #2 Posted February 16, 2017 if he;s over 25 then the national living wage is £7-20 per hour, £6.95 is the 21 to 24 rate the hmrc maximum rates are 45p per mile for the first 10000 miles and 25p thereafter above this they start looking at taxing the payment so 14p seems a bit niggardly Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Isiris 10 #3 Posted February 17, 2017 Theres no such thing as minimum wage for Self Employed Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Anna B 1,401 #4 Posted February 17, 2017 Theres no such thing as minimum wage for Self Employed That's true, but surely minimum wage is at least a starting point for calculating what your own rate should be, or it's hardly worth starting up. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
steveroberts 10 #5 Posted February 20, 2017 I agree Anna. To the OP, if your partner is only driving for them then HMRC would treat him as being employed by the company he is contracting with. Regarding the 14p/mile; are they providing the Van? If so then HMRC would definitely consider him to be an employee! Otherwise my advice would be to go and fund other customers who would pay a fair amount/hour and a mileage rate to cover the true costs of the van. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
jacc14 10 #6 Posted February 20, 2017 Thanks for your replies. It's his own car and sure the 14p is not covering running costs. He only drives for this company but is considered as self employed even though he works in the office sometimes too. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
dorberman 10 #7 Posted February 20, 2017 Thanks for your replies. It's his own car and sure the 14p is not covering running costs. He only drives for this company but is considered as self employed even though he works in the office sometimes too. as a self employed person he can claim allowance of 45p per mile against his expenses Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Chez2 10 #8 Posted February 21, 2017 It does seem rather low, really unreasonable. Its doesn't seem worth working. When I had an employer our mileage payment was really low but we were given quite a decent monthly car allowance too if we provided our own car. Its surprising how much the price of business car insurance and the cost of devaluation of the value of the car adds up to though when doing high mileage. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Isiris 10 #9 Posted February 25, 2017 I agree Anna. To the OP, if your partner is only driving for them then HMRC would treat him as being employed by the company he is contracting with. Regarding the 14p/mile; are they providing the Van? If so then HMRC would definitely consider him to be an employee! Otherwise my advice would be to go and fund other customers who would pay a fair amount/hour and a mileage rate to cover the true costs of the van. Please explain how "Only Driving" for them would make him employed by yhe company. So all Taxi Drivers are Employed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
*Belle* 10 #10 Posted February 25, 2017 I think that steveroberts means that, if he is driving 'exclusively' for this company, HMRC would consider him to be employed by them. HMRC can then insist that he is placed on their payroll and must be an employee. And as you mention taxi drivers, the Uber tribunal came to a similar conclusion. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
TheNugget 10 #11 Posted April 20, 2017 If he is self employed, then why doesn't he just pay himself more?! This really winds me up! Companies are just circumventing employment law by "not" employing people! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Chez2 10 #12 Posted April 20, 2017 If he is self employed, then why doesn't he just pay himself more?! This really winds me up! Companies are just circumventing employment law by "not" employing people! Its about claiming from the company giving him the work his 'employer' ie company he's subcontracting from. The money has to come from somewhere so he can pay himself, you're missing the point. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...