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They won't be the same. Under May's preferred plan... (ability to diverge standards and laws as we see fit) it won't matter, they'll be going anyway.

 

To stay would mean that at any moment they could end up having the rug pulled from under their feet, as Brexit has already done.

 

I think they'll hedge their bets, hope for the best in the short term but be looking at longer term issues... of which there are likely to be many.

 

Not overnight, but a slow wind down as production is slowly moved back into the EU to minimise the upset to their balance sheets.

 

They've already started moving their supply chains away from UK suppliers to avoid "country of origin" problems post Brexit.

 

The UK Government, as usual, is miles behind:

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-05-10/u-k-only-now-asks-business-to-map-supply-chain-ahead-of-brexit

You clearly don't understand the German motor industry will still seek to export the same level of motor vehicles to the UK after the UK leaves the EU and the aviation industry will not want less flights to take place over UK airspace after the UK leave the EU.

You clearly don't understand the German motor industry will still seek to export the same level of motor vehicles to the UK after the UK leaves the EU and the aviation industry will not want less flights to take place over UK airspace after the UK leave the EU.

 

This is true, but so much depends on how prosperous the U.K. is after we leave

You clearly don't understand the German motor industry will still seek to export the same level of motor vehicles to the UK after the UK leaves the EU

 

That doesn't mean they'll continue to make them here.

 

and the aviation industry will not want less flights to take place over UK airspace after the UK leave the EU.

 

Again, this is entirely irrelevant to whether the planes, or parts for planes, are made here.

Edited July 21, 2018 by Magilla

You clearly don't understand the German motor industry will still seek to export the same level of motor vehicles to the UK after the UK leaves the EU

Of course they want to have the same level of exports to the UK after brexit but they have said they prioritise maintaining the single market over their exports to the UK. That's most easily done by the UK staying in (something equivalent to) the single market.

 

UK car manufacturers also want us to stay in the single market or something equivalent to it.

 

Brexiter dreams of the German auto industry pushing the EU into allowing the UK to have a have cake plus eat it brexit were never realistic and should have died a long time ago.

Of course they want to have the same level of exports to the UK after brexit but they have said they prioritise maintaining the single market over their exports to the UK. That's most easily done by the UK staying in (something equivalent to) the single market.

UK car manufacturers also want us to stay in the single market or something equivalent to it.

 

Brexiter dreams of the German auto industry pushing the EU into allowing the UK to have a have cake plus eat it brexit were never realistic and should have died a long time ago.

 

Get real, the German motor industry's priority is to maximise revenue and profits, which is why they have built factories in Slovakia to take advantage of the lowest EU labour rate and want to continue tariff free trading with the UK, which is their largest current EU member's source of revenue.

You clearly don't understand the German motor industry will still seek to export the same level of motor vehicles to the UK after the UK leaves the EU and the aviation industry will not want less flights to take place over UK airspace after the UK leave the EU.

The line of Brexiteering argument that the German car industry was going to pressure the EU into giving the U.K. a sweet deal for the sake of maintaining exports to the U.K. died of death, when the German car industry confirmed publicly that the integrity of the Single Market trumped the U.K. market by a country mile.

 

That was a good year ago at least, and has been reconfirmed by the German car manufacturers association time and again since.

 

You can keep clinging to the notion if you wish, but it does make you look either uninformed, or obtuse. Take your pick.

The line of Brexiteering argument that the German car industry was going to pressure the EU into giving the U.K. a sweet deal for the sake of maintaining exports to the U.K. died of death, when the German car industry confirmed publicly that the integrity of the Single Market trumped the U.K. market by a country mile.

 

That was a good year ago at least, and has been reconfirmed by the German car manufacturers association time and again since.

 

You can keep clinging to the notion if you wish, but it does make you look either uninformed, or obtuse. Take your pick.

 

It falls under the sound bite ”they need us more than we need them".

The line of Brexiteering argument that the German car industry was going to pressure the EU into giving the U.K. a sweet deal for the sake of maintaining exports to the U.K. died of death, when the German car industry confirmed publicly that the integrity of the Single Market trumped the U.K. market by a country mile.

 

That was a good year ago at least, and has been reconfirmed by the German car manufacturers association time and again since.

 

You can keep clinging to the notion if you wish, but it does make you look either uninformed, or obtuse. Take your pick.

There is no pointing in pretending there is any integrity of the single market when labour rates are so much lower in Slovakia than they are in both Germany and the UK, which is why factories and manufacturing are moving to Slovakia and away from the UK and Germany.

There is no pointing in pretending there is any integrity of the single market when labour rates are so much lower in Slovakia than they are in both Germany and the UK, which is why factories and manufacturing are moving to Slovakia and away from the UK and Germany.

 

At this point it’s worth reminding you about Raab and others’ views on employment rights and wage controls?

 

Let me know.

I read today that Irish Taoiseach, Leo Varadkar is threatening that British airlines could be banned from flying over Irish airspace, (currently allowed under 'open skies' agreement), in the event of a no deal hard Brexit.

 

Fair enough but good luck to the Irish citizens trying to fly to mainland Europe without entering UK airspace, as a possible response. They're in for a long & additional costly trip Taoiseach!

 

 

Guinness talking I wonder?. Good luck trying to implement that one Leo.

 

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At this point it’s worth reminding you about Raab and others’ views on employment rights and wage controls?

 

Let me know.

Two wrongs don't make a right. The EU make a big deal about harmonisation within the single market, which is contradicted, when labour rates are not harmonised within the single market.

There is no pointing in pretending there is any integrity of the single market when labour rates are so much lower in Slovakia than they are in both Germany and the UK, which is why factories and manufacturing are moving to Slovakia and away from the UK and Germany.

The logical extension of that reasoning is that we shouldn't do trade deals with any countries that have lower wages than the UK because it will encourage companies to setup/move production there rather than stay in the UK.