Israel's legacy of death in Lebanon

Oh please dont compare Israel to us!

What do you mean by "us". Are you saying that you are a member of this terrorist organisation?

What do you mean by "us". Are you saying that you are a member of this terrorist organisation?

us as in Britain!

us as in Britain!

So you are offended that I might compare Israel to the UK. This is because we are lucky to have peaceful neighbours at the moment. In the event that we had terrorists on the borders, as Israel does, then you might not be so keen to simply let them get on with firing rockets at us. The last time an enemy fired rockets at London we firebombed their cities and they stopped doing it.

So you are offended that I might compare Israel to the UK. This is because we are lucky to have peaceful neighbours at the moment. In the event that we had terrorists on the borders, as Israel does, then you might not be so keen to simply let them get on with firing rockets at us. The last time an enemy fired rockets at London we firebombed their cities and they stopped doing it.

We've had terrorists, and we didn't firebomb dublin or destroy the infrastructure of the Irish republic.

How you can say that Israel were "targetting" Hezbollah by destroying a whole nation is beyond me!

We've had terrorists, and we didn't firebomb dublin or destroy the infrastructure of the Irish republic.

We used artillery in the streets of dublin in (I think) 1917 when it was more like open warfare. In more recent terrorist attacks the Irish terrorists have been hidden in the community and also opposed by Dublin. If the IRA had some into the open and had not been opposed by Dublin then things would have been different. This is far removed from Israel where we have terrorists who have been supplied with rockets by foreign powers and who then fire them at civilian targets. There was no other option open to Israel other than destroying those rocket launchers. In doing so they caused other problems and also destroyed any infrastructure targets that were likely to aid the terrorists, particularly the movement of those terrorists. If you think about this for a moment, it makes perfect sense, even if it is horrific. The terrorists fire rockets and then, like all artillery, they attempt to run away before they are themselves attacked (this is because anti-battery radar will be able to pinpoint their location). It is necessary to prevent their movement by destroying bridges, attacking vehicles, and by generally removing the infrastructure used to site and aim them.

At the end of the day, the terrorists could have stopped firing rockets into Israel and thinsg wouldn't have been as bad as they were. Instead, they carried on and then Israel caused terrible death and destruction in order to stop them.

They fired rockets into Israeli cities AFTER Israel started bombing Lebanon.

Terrorist ? They've got elected members in the Lebanese cabinet.

 

Oh please dont compare Israel to us!

 

Its a simple question I asked, why are you finding it sooooo difficult ?

Er, no, they'd been firing rocket into Israel for quite some time.

Israel isn't squeaky clean, but neither is it the evil monster that the western media (well, the BBC) paints it to be. Israel is a sovereign nation and the abduction of two soldiers from within the Israeli borders (disputed as they may be, but did they actually ever get all the land they were promised? no!) is technically an act of war.

War is never a pretty thing, and yes, there are civilian casualties. I can't say I'm a great fan of the carnage, but the general feeling seems to make Lebanon out to be some poor innocent victim.

Has anyone ever noticed how the news service never actually gives you both sides of the story?

If you were surrounded by nations several times your size, all calling for the destruction of your country, wouldn't your first priority be to protect your country? Conventions and accords aside, Israel is under attack on a daily basis from extremists and terrorists, the US isn't as wonderfully pro Israel as you'd think, especially with politicians such as Condolleeza Rice sticking their beaks in.

As for the so-called "apartheid" in places like Jerusalem. If there was apartheid, then how can the Palestinians get onto Israeli buses to blow them up?

Er, no, they'd been firing rocket into Israel for quite some time.

 

Israel isn't squeaky clean, but neither is it the evil monster that the western media (well, the BBC) paints it to be. Israel is a sovereign nation and the abduction of two soldiers from within the Israeli borders (disputed as they may be, but did they actually ever get all the land they were promised? no!) is technically an act of war.

 

War is never a pretty thing, and yes, there are civilian casualties. I can't say I'm a great fan of the carnage, but the general feeling seems to make Lebanon out to be some poor innocent victim.

 

Has anyone ever noticed how the news service never actually gives you both sides of the story?

 

If you were surrounded by nations several times your size, all calling for the destruction of your country, wouldn't your first priority be to protect your country? Conventions and accords aside, Israel is under attack on a daily basis from extremists and terrorists, the US isn't as wonderfully pro Israel as you'd think, especially with politicians such as Condolleeza Rice sticking their beaks in.

 

As for the so-called "apartheid" in places like Jerusalem. If there was apartheid, then how can the Palestinians get onto Israeli buses to blow them up?

How many times has Lebanon invaded Israel ?

ABIDE BY INTERNATIONAL NORMS AND TREATIES LIKE EVERYONE ELSE IS EXPECTED TO !

hizbollah dont abide by international treaties israel dont use suicide bombers instead they attack from civilllian areas then do a runner putting the civilians at risk

i dont expect any of this to be accepted as anything that is said in favour of israel is shouted down but one wrong word against muslims and suddenly the person is accused of being racist or a ranting member of the BNP i am neither of these but i do think that there is a lot of anti semetic people on here a lot of them have posted on this thread

being anti semetic is just as bad as being member of the BNP

just because you believe the person or people you are racist against deserve it doesn't make it any less a case of racism

some members would love israel just to sit on their hands and be bombed into extiction but because they wont they are berated and called murderers

israel are not squeaky clean

but hizbollah are not a legitimate amry if the fighters wanted to defend lebanon they ould have joined the lebanese army not fired rockets from streets in civilian areas

ABIDE BY INTERNATIONAL NORMS AND TREATIES LIKE EVERYONE ELSE IS EXPECTED TO !

hizbollah dont abide by international treaties israel dont use suicide bombers instead hizbollah attack from civilllian areas then do a runner putting the civilians at risk

i dont expect any of this to be accepted as anything that is said in favour of israel is shouted down but one wrong word against muslims and suddenly the person is accused of being racist or a ranting member of the BNP i am neither of these but i do think that there is a lot of anti semetic people on here a lot of them have posted on this thread

being anti semetic is just as bad as being member of the BNP

just because you believe the person or people you are racist against deserve it doesn't make it any less a case of racism

some members would love israel just to sit on their hands and be bombed into extiction but because they wont they are berated and called murderers

israel are not squeaky clean

but hizbollah are not a legitimate amry if the fighters wanted to defend lebanon they ould have joined the lebanese army not fired rockets from streets in civilian areas

hizbollah dont abide by international treaties israel dont use suicide bombers instead they attack from civilllian areas then do a runner putting the civilians at risk

They dont have to use suicide bombers as they are given the latest military hardware to do the killing.

i dont expect any of this to be accepted as anything that is said in favour of israel is shouted down but one wrong word against muslims and suddenly the person is accused of being racist or a ranting member of the BNP i am neither of these but i do think that there is a lot of anti semetic people on here a lot of them have posted on this thread

you mean like calling people anti-semitic ?

being anti semetic is just as bad as being member of the BNP

 

just because you believe the person or people you are racist against deserve it doesn't make it any less a case of racism

 

some members would love israel just to sit on their hands and be bombed into extiction but because they wont they are berated and called murderers

Being a zionist is worse than the BNP. The BNP haven't carried out ethnic cleansing or committed war crimes have they ?

israel are not squeaky clean

Is that a polite way of saying its a terrorist nation which has during the course of the last 50 years broken nearly every international and civilised norm ?

Being a zionist is worse than the BNP. The BNP haven't carried out ethnic cleansing or committed war crimes have they ?

but hizbollah are not a legitimate amry if the fighters wanted to defend lebanon they ould have joined the lebanese army not fired rockets from streets in civilian areas

An army has its legitamacy from the people. If the Lebanese people are supporting Hizbollah (and you'll have difficulty proving otherwise), who are you to rant about their legitamacy ????!

An army has its legitamacy from the people. If the Lebanese people are supporting Hizbollah (and you'll have difficulty proving otherwise), who are you to rant about their legitamacy ????!

An army can only have legitamacy from being the army of an elected government ot a sovereign power. In this case Hizbollah is NOT an army it is a terrorist organisation being supplied directly by an outside party. If the people all supported it then they would stand for election and would form the government. Then they could use the Lebanese Army to attack Israel. If they did this then Israel would be able to attack all the people in Lebanon as it was their own army. Whichever way you look at this, the Hizbollah terrorists had the option of not firing on Israeli civilians and even handing over their weapons and surrendering. They choose to keep atacking Israel so they are party to all the deaths.

An army can only have legitamacy from being the army of an elected government ot a sovereign power. In this case Hizbollah is NOT an army it is a terrorist organisation being supplied directly by an outside party. If the people all supported it then they would stand for election and would form the government. Then they could use the Lebanese Army to attack Israel. If they did this then Israel would be able to attack all the people in Lebanon as it was their own army. Whichever way you look at this, the Hizbollah terrorists had the option of not firing on Israeli civilians and even handing over their weapons and surrendering. They choose to keep atacking Israel so they are party to all the deaths.

not all the deaths