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  1. Do you mean someone that says they have donated but hasnt, or someone that brags that they actually havent?

     

    Obviously if its the first one thats terrible, but it wasnt one of the options was it?

    Id think more highly of someone donating to a charity and telling me, than of someone who tells me they dont care.

     

    No nikki', you just failed to state all the variables.


  2. You have a point, but sometimes all that's needed is awareness, not pressure. Awareness may come from being told about an aid campaign.

     

    On the other hand, I can't possibly donate to every single worthy cause that comes my way, and I dislike the notion that my decision on which ones to support, might be influenced by which ones shout the loudest. Awareness-raising is a good thing, but can have negative effects.

     

    Quite right, awareness is the key. And right again, too much shouting can have an adverse effect, hence my OP.

     

    In my opinion HeadingNorth, you have posted the most sensible reply so far.


  3. He's just acting the tit again - bit of a shame; I saw a few sensible posts of his recently and had hoped he'd done with this kind of nonsense.

     

    Why do you think that it is nonsense Halibut? I don't post nonsense, and judging by the quality of replies (other than yours), other poster's don't see it as nonsense either. They may not fully agree with my opinions, but they do not resort to calling me a "tit".


  4. To be honest, I don't think the desperate people of Haiti will care too hoots whether someone in Sheffield is telling someone else how much they have donated, just that they have donated matters to them.

     

    I used to think that you shouldn't brag about what you donate for lots of reasons and I must admit, donating, or doing a good deed and then keeping that to yourself is a wonderful feeling. However, is that just "smug satisfaction"? and just as bad? The reason I'm in two minds is because, every person who is saying that they have donated, is publicising the cause, and thus raising awareness and encouraging others to donate.

     

    Maybe it depends on the cause. If it's someone who is likely to be embarrassed by accepting help, then you keep it quiet, if it's a major worldwide disaster, then perhaps we should shout about it.

     

    How can smug be smug if no one else Knows about it?

     

    To be fair, their is plenty of puplicity about Haiti. All of us on this forum should donate without shouting about it, unless we crave the attention!


  5. True Sheffielder's, don't donate to charity and brag about it!

     

    Here is an old Sheffield saying for you. "Give to them that need it, but say nowt to other folk. Telling other folk, means you want summat back!"

     

    This is a saying that I heard many times in my childhood from my Grandparents and Great Aunt's and Uncle's during their discussions around the dinner table about the bombings in the 2nd World War.

     

    Many true Sheffielder's will have heard this saying in the past. The wording may vary from family to family, but the point remains the same.

     

    I bring this up because I have noticed several posters declaring how much money they have donated to charity. The Haiti cause is the most recent, and a worthy cause without a doubt.

     

    It seems that nowadays, too many people/companies give to charity for their own means.

     

    Many wealthy people brag about how much they donate, to prove their wealth, in the same way they brag about how much they paid for their new designer kitchen.

     

    Many companies brag about how much they donate, to gain publicity and increase their profile.

     

    No need for a lengthy thread. Just a need to point out the true nature of giving to those in need, from our wise elders.

     

    viney. :)


  6. Wow! Viney you have got some issues mate! have you had a compassion bypass? Don't you realise what has happened in Haiti? Try imagining for just a few minutes what they are going through. Just try and develop an ounce of empathy for fellow human beings in real trouble.

    Who cares if a company donates £50,000 publically or privately? I would have thought that if they made it public then it could spur other organisations to match it.

    It is true that some of these companies could be donating money publically as a form of publicity but so what? At least the people who need help get it.

    Have you also considered Viney how your public stand on such a huge issue could affect YOUR business? In being so mean spirited, selfish and public about it many people could be put off using your plastering services. I know I am!

     

    You have completely misunderstood my point.

     

    I should make it clear, that I donate to several charities every month by way of direct debit from my “personal” account, and have done for many years. I have also recently donated to the Haiti appeal.

     

    I do not feel the need to shout from the roof tops, every time I make a donation, as I believe that charity should be given quietly, and not be used as a means for personal gain. You have forced me to disclose my moral standing by attempting to discredit me, and my business, while not being in possession of the facts!

     

    With regards to Tess’s case, my point was that it was unfair of her company to donate staff wages to gain recognition as being charitable. It did not come out of the pockets of the top brass, nor the company pot, and was a clear case of emotional blackmail to further the company’s profile.

     

    In your post, you labelled me as being “mean spirited” and “selfish”, and suggested that people should not use my services. You were clearly wrong in your assumptions.

     

    I must remind you that you also state your business in your signature. It would be very easy for me to discredit you, due to your attack on me without gathering the facts beforehand.

     

    I will not attempt to discredit you. I believe that you genuinely misunderstood my point, However, I think it only fair that you retract your previous allegations towards me.

     

    All the best. viney :)


  7. No I do not, but funnily enough their salary means absolutely nothing to me.

     

    They sent an email round the offices all over the country to ask whether anyone donated them. It wasn't a public thing, it was the staff - they have a right to know where their christmas money and annual increases will be going don't they? Because we didn't get either of these due to lack of funding and now i'm glad it has gone elsewhere - the people of Haiti need it far more than I need an extra 10p an hour!

     

    Your donations are commendable, even though they are now made public.

     

    Do you think it fair that your annual increases and Christmas money were shoved into a kitty for a disaster in Haiti that hadn't even happened at Christmas!!?.


  8. The company I work for has just donated £50,000 towards aid for the earthquake, and although I can't quite match that i've just donated a fiver too. I hope although it isn't much, it will buy something massively needed over there.

     

    My bold.

     

    How do you know?

     

    Do you know the salaries and annual bonuses’ and Divi's of your Chairman and board of Directors?

     

    I doubt it. But you know that they have donated £50,000!

     

    This is not charity. This is publicity.


  9. It's sad that this thread has not had more support.

    Yes, I agree that there are charities in this country that need our support and I would like to think that they receive it.

     

    This is a tragedy on a massive scale and I would hope that people that can afford to will dig a little deeper into their pockets at this time.

     

    Thankfully according to the paper I have read today 2 million of the British public have.

    As for throwing it at someone buried under rubble, try telling that to the mother who's 2 year old son was pulled alive from that same rubble!

     

    Supporting a thread about a cause, is not the same as supporting the cause. I think the reason that this thread has not received more attention, is that many people have already given donations through their genuine sympathy for the people involved in this tragic event.

     

    I would hazard a guess that the majority of the 2 million Brit's that have donated, have done so quietly. The majority will also have donated to charities closer to home.

     

    Donating, and shouting about it is conducive to egotism.

     

    Lets face it, From the richest to the poorest of our society, we all have far more than we need in comparison to the less privileged parts of "our" Globe.


  10. Hi, I'm an international student in Sheffield, and my recent program is to plan a PR campaign to promote Sheffield.

     

    And I really want to find something special in Sheffield (except steel)that can attract people's eyes from all over the world.

     

    Can anyone tell me valuable ideas that really can bring a great promotion of Sheffield?:confused:

     

    Thanks,

     

    YAN

     

    Hi YAN, Read the above bold. Seems to be a good enough opener to expand on!

     

    I wish you well with your studies. :)


  11. Giving children bottles of milk makes perfect sense, giving it to all people does to be honest.

    Good for teeth, good for bones, good for farmers etc.

     

    Let us not forget the horrible waste of milk which took place in Belgium less than a year ago.

     

    We all need milk, it would make more sense to be in control of our own supply funded via our taxes at xp/L , rather than have farmers going bust, producing milk at 27p a litre and being paid only 10p per litre on farms with modern infrastructure.

     

    The farmer is making a loss, the demand for the milk is there, common sense dictates the demand and people are paying a whole host of different prices for the same commodity, the commodity production then suffers as corporate entities exploit it for all they can.

     

    If we decide to give free milk to people who wish to take care of their teeth, we should give free fags and sugar to those that don't.

     

    Isn't this the point of living in a democratic society where we are allowed to make our own lifestyle choices?

     

    The sugars and the smokers pay the same taxes as the milky’s, if not more.

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