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Independent inquiry into UNRWA staff being Hamas finds no supporting evidence to support the claims and neither does Israel provide any=

https://news.un.org/en/story/2024/04/1148821

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2024/4/22/no-evidence-of-unrwa-staff-links-terrorist-groups-independent-review

12 hours ago, Beechwood_S6 said:

I see this from all ethnic communities/races its   legitimate  in instances, but a minority from all races over play the victim/race card it not unique  to Israel/Jewish folk.

Israel as a country has always used the victim card in order to do stuff it says is necessary to keep it secure and it even instils this into the population. Jewish people are not all Zionists and unfortunately it is the Zionists that are the problem. In my opinion Israel should go back to the 1967 borders and stop annexing more land and end the occupation and the resistance fighters would have nothing to resist and then both sides need to live in peace. Israel does have a right to exist but it doesn’t have a right to keep stealing land under the pretence of security. An international peace keeping force needs to be allocated to ensure that peace prevails…

1 hour ago, redruby said:

Don’t some of these takeaways use the fat from the doner meat for frying the fish and chips? So it all tastes like doner kebab.

I don’t think anyone does this, maybe they fry something else in the same oil that leaves a taste in the oil?

Frymaster down Attercliffe is a traditional chippy that uses beef dripping and the fish and chips taste wonderful but they only open at dinner times

UK lawyers for Israel threatened legal action over Palestinian flags being flown in  Tower Hamlets, this is  another example of Israel playing the victim card again. They drop massive bombs on density packed refugee camps killing many women and children and then get all hurt about Palestinians flags being flown in support+
 

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13196099/amp/Tower-Hamlets-Palestine-flags-council-buildings-boroughs-mayor-Lutfur-Rahman-announces-denies-symbols-division.html

This happened to a group of Muslim women on their way home after a protest, this is protesters coming under attack so an opposite side of the coin but this isn’t staged unlike the Jewish anti semitism group campaigner this thread is about=

https://apple.news/Av_RBcVcQSf2_DRxLSS1BEA

1 hour ago, The_DADDY said:

So are you saying there are never any violent hamas supporting thugs at any of these protests? 

Serious question, what led to the formation of Hamas and other armed resistance groups?

A mass grave of 210 Palestinians some with their hands bound were found buried in the grounds of Nasser medical complex in Khan younis that the terrorist IDF left a week or so ago.
Hamas will be replaced by another group who will continue the resistance against Israel’s settler colonialism and the world should be ashamed that we are allowing it to happen. These poor Palestinians have nobody coming to their defence and in the same way innocent Muslims get targeted due to Muslim terrorists or sex offenders unfortunately Jewish people need to realise that Israel’s actions will make them targets which is not right but it’s going to happen so they need to blame israel for making it unsafe for them.

Hamas this Hamas that but it gets conveniently forgotten that Israel is the problem and can’t expect there to not be a reaction to its atrocities that it has been carrying out since 1948.

People all over are waking up to the “we are the victims” mantra being repeated by Israel and Jewish people and maybe they should wake up and realise why some people are turning against them.

Occoupied people are allowed to resist occupation under international law and after seeing programmes about what Israel has been doing for the last few decades it’s a wonder why people are surprised that Israel is so hated.

On another note Russia is going to supply Iran with fighter planes and air defence systems so looks like the East is getting together in the face of the Wests double standards…

8 minutes ago, The_DADDY said:

My bold

Yes, that does appear to be the case so im happy to acknowledge I may have jumped the gun when forming my opinion 👍

I have sometimes done the same thing myself..

4 hours ago, The_DADDY said:

Yes. It's shameful. I was going to start a thread about it myself but then thought, why bother?

Anyway, preventing a Jewish UK citizen from crossing the road incase he upsets a bunch of violent hamas supporters by simply being Jewish shows how pathetic and weak the Met are. 

Dark times ahead if this carries on.

Supporters of innocent Palestinians calling for a ceasefire are not Hamas supporters. The Jewish activist did it on purpose that’s why he recorded it. Always have to be the victims…

I have a used flywheel from a 2.2 Range Rover Evoque on a 13 plate that is in good condition as my gearbox failed so had a new gearbox and full clutch set up fitted.

It’s from a 2013 year car and I know it’s the same engine as in some fords.

If you have a part number for one you need I can check it to see if it will fit.

Solid flywheels do cause slight vibration and my old transit blew the gearbox after having one fitted within a year so my thinking is it is dual mass for a reason…

Just seen on aljazeera breaking news that explosions have been reported in Iran,Iraq and Syria. 😳

My parents live on Page Hall Road itself and I grew up around there. It has changed but slowly but surly I think the people who have come to live here are realising that they have to change their ways. 
I go everyday to see my parents as they are getting on and my dad is ill and I’ve never had any bother.

Yes some of the back roads are a tip and I have seen rats in the daytime but to me it’s still the place I grew up.

My parents house is a massive  4 bedroom house  and hopefully one day the area will improve.

3 hours ago, Longcol said:

Nor like Israel in using the army to  aid land grabs to seize territory on the West Bank.

On Tuesday the Israeli Govt  decided to seize more land in Hebron in the West Bank, 64000 sq metres in size to establish an illegal industrial settlement=

https://english.wafa.ps/Pages/Details/143281

40 minutes ago, Al Bundy said:

Iran would struggle to level against Sheffield United.

 

Not going to happen.

You been drinking? Iran can defend itself, launching 300 plus weapons is not a country that would struggle.

2 hours ago, Axe said:

The attack happened in Syria which is a terrorist country similar to Iran.  The person targeted was in a building adjacent to the Iranian embassy. 

 

Yes Iran made sure that Israel was aware of what they were going to do because they are a cowardly terrorist country and are hoping Israel does not give them their just desserts.  Israel is not a terrorist country. 

Stop trotting out the Israeli narrative, the Iranian consulate took a direct hit.

Iran has the weapons to retaliate and cause damage, Israel is weak and only goes round pushing its weight and bullying defenceless innocent people because it has the backing of the  USA.

Israel is a genocidal terrorist settler colonial state on stolen land and is backed up by the biggest scumbag terrorist country called the USA.

The world has seen who is the biggest hypocrite countries for themselves.

Iran isn’t cowardly and the USA are thinking twice before attacking Iran because Iran has the capability to defend itself.

28 minutes ago, Ridgewalk said:

To be honest the world in general is against Israel. China, Russia and Iran participated in military exercises recently. 
Western countries aren’t all united in support of Israel, eg Spain, Belgium, Ireland. 
 

The only country that consistently swims against the tide is the US in support of its puppet, with British connivance.

 

Interesting that the US is wary of escalating the situation with Iran. 

Hopefully it won’t come to a war between Iran and Israel otherwise the whole Middle East will get dragged into it.

37 minutes ago, Axe said:

The West are trying to persuade Israel from going to war against Iran in retaliation to the 301 drone and missiles launched towards Israel.  New sanctions against the terrorist country is a better outcome surely than a full blown war between the two countries.

The Iranian action was in response to the Israeli attack on the Iranian embassy, israel was wrong and Iran gave a response with warning and said the matter is now done. Israel says it will respond yet its only Iran getting sanctions?

Israel is also a terrorist country that bombs other countries Willy nilly with impunity.

Western hypocrisy on show again!!

New sanctions against Iran but not a single one against Israel for the atrocities it is committing that are well documented or the strike on the Iranian embassy and then we wonder why some people decide to resort to terrorism.

No wonder the West is despised by the East….

3 hours ago, peak4 said:

Indeed so, as my previously linked Pilger article explains; maybe Geared hasn't read it yet.

The Afghanistan coup with its subsequent policy of education for all,  a generally popular government, and increased life expectancy, seemed largely irrelevant to the US & UK who recognised the  possibility of  the using the newly emerging country to destabilise The Soviet Union. 

 

From Pilger again, but various other sources available; this article just pulls many of the points together.

In August 1979, the U.S. embassy in Kabul reported that “the United States’ larger interests … would be served by the demise of the PDPA government, despite whatever setbacks this might mean for future social and economic reforms in Afghanistan.”

Read again the words above I have italicized. It is not often that such cynical intent is spelt out as clearly.  

The U.S. was saying that a genuinely progressive Afghan government and the rights of Afghan women could go to hell.

Six months later, the Soviets made their fatal move into Afghanistan in response to the American-created jihadist threat on their doorstep.

Armed with CIA-supplied Stinger missiles and celebrated as “freedom fighters” by Margaret Thatcher, the mujahedin eventually drove the Red Army out of Afghanistan.

The mujahedin were dominated by war lords who controlled the heroin trade and terrorized rural women.

Later, in the early 1990s the Taliban would emerge, an ultra-puritanical faction, whose mullahs wore black and punished banditry, rape and murder but banished women from public life.

 

Excerpt from Interview with Zbigniew Brzezinski U.S. President Carter's National Security Adviser 

The source Marxists.org might not be to everyone's taste, including mine, but it's about the interview, not the hosting website.

 

Question: The former director of the CIA, Robert Gates, stated in his memoirs ["From the Shadows"], that American intelligence services began to aid the Mujahadeen in Afghanistan 6 months before the Soviet intervention.

In this period you were the national security adviser to President Carter. You therefore played a role in this affair. Is that correct?

Brzezinski: Yes. According to the official version of history, CIA aid to the Mujahadeen began during 1980, that is to say, after the Soviet army invaded Afghanistan, 24 Dec 1979. But the reality, secretly guarded until now, is completely otherwise: Indeed, it was July 3, 1979 that President Carter signed the first directive for secret aid to the opponents of the pro-Soviet regime in Kabul. And that very day, I wrote a note to the president in which I explained to him that in my opinion this aid was going to induce a Soviet military intervention.

Q: Despite this risk, you were an advocate of this covert action. But perhaps you yourself desired this Soviet entry into war and looked to provoke it?

B: It isn't quite that. We didn't push the Russians to intervene, but we knowingly increased the probability that they would.

Q: When the Soviets justified their intervention by asserting that they intended to fight against a secret involvement of the United States in Afghanistan, people didn't believe them. However, there was a basis of truth. You don't regret anything today?

B: Regret what? That secret operation was an excellent idea. It had the effect of drawing the Russians into the Afghan trap and you want me to regret it?

The day that the Soviets officially crossed the border, I wrote to President Carter:

We now have the opportunity of giving to the USSR its Vietnam war.

Indeed, for almost 10 years, Moscow had to carry on a war unsupportable by the government, a conflict that brought about the demoralization and finally the breakup of the Soviet empire.

Q: And neither do you regret having supported the Islamic fundamentlaism, having given arms and advice to future terrorists?

B: What is most important to the history of the world?

The Taliban or the collapse of the Soviet empire? Some stirred-up Moslems or the liberation of Central Europe and the end of the cold war?

Q: Some stirred-up Moslems? But it has been said and repeated: Islamic fundamentalism represents a world menace today.

B: Nonsense! It is said that the West had a global policy in regard to Islam. That is stupid. There isn't a global Islam. Look at Islam in a rational manner and without demagoguery or emotion. It is the leading religion of the world with 1.5 billion followers. But what is there in common among Saudi Arabian fundamentalism, moderate Morocco, Pakistan militarism, Egyptian pro-Western or Central Asian secularism? Nothing more than what unites the Christian countries.

Source: Killing Hope, by William Blum. Article translated from the French.

 

I believe his comment "liberation of Central Europe" refers to the rise of Solidarity in his native Poland (amongst other politics in Europe at the time).

Maybe the Soviets involvement in Afghanistan did prevent them getting involved in Poland, but at what long term cost to the whole of the Middle East, the rise of al-Qaeda, & ISIS, Islamic fundamentalism in parts of Africa, etc.

I also read that Afghanistan is a very mineral rich country and also has untapped gas and oil reserves =
https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2021/08/18/business/afghanistan-lithium-rare-earths-mining

https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-pacific/what-are-afghanistans-untapped-minerals-resources-2021-08-19/

Makes you wonder why countries keep trying to conquer the place…

9 hours ago, The_DADDY said:

It's funny. 

Hardly any news about the Priest being stabbed.

Not much being said about the attacker either. Its almost as though it's being swept under the rug. 

Maybe because of the riot after by the priests followers who turned on the police. Here’s a link that doesn’t show the gory act itself but shows the riot after=

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9HAWGwSHoFs

41 minutes ago, Longcol said:

How many people can live in a country where they choose to live?

 

Reckon I'm one of a tiny minority as I moved to France due to a combination of an inheritance, 40 odd years of savings  to a personal pension, and owning a house in Sheffield I can rent out.

I agree not everyone is fortunate to be able to move but people born in a country grow up accustomed to the ways of that country.

We eat beef in the UK but in India the cow is a sacred animal so are we going to start saying some in your country want to eat beef so let them?

Every country and region of the world has different traditions and ways of doing things so who is anybody to try and enforce their ways onto others?

Did 20 years of war in Afghanistan free the women from having to wear the Gurkhas as they were bleating on about as operation freedom I think?

Keep your western democratic ways in the West and accept that Eastern countries have Eastern  democratic ways.

51 minutes ago, The_DADDY said:

My bold

I agree completely. I'll go further and say many ofter worlds problems are caused by Western countries ways.

 

Underlined. 

He's wrong because he's stereotyping?

So he's factually incorrect then? 

Women CAN do all those things in Yemen and Iran?

Yemen  is currently undergoing a civil war and Iran is a country where the govt is at odds with its citizens although Iran in the 60s and 70s was very cosmopolitan until the west started interfering.

Every country that western democracy is forced upon ends up in the hands of the opposite extremists so might be worth leaving them alone.

Look at how the so called Arab spring turned out and that was instigated by western interference and also look at what is happening in Ukraine?

The world would be a better place if the so called western democracies kept their noses and armies out of other countries.

Western democracies can’t stop a genocide that is happening in Gaza and a war in Sudan yet we are quick to bleat about women not being able to go out dancing alone? Talk about getting our priorities right eh?

5 minutes ago, The_DADDY said:

My bold.

So he's wrong then? 

He is stereotyping so yes he is, western countries ways are not the way everyone wants to live so people live on a country where they choose to live

2 hours ago, Al Bundy said:

Well for one she would be able to wear what she wants, ride a bike, go dancing alone, travel without permission from her husband  visit sport stadiums and have the opportunity to become a judge, so that would be a bonus.

 

Your talking a load of codswallop again,Pakistan had a female prime minister decades ago and also has female judges and mps.

All countries are different so stop trying to judge countries on the standards of one country and say everyone has to be the same as the USA or Britain or Israel etc.

6 hours ago, cressida said:

Well I'll be honest and choose B 👍

You would seriously want to be ruled by a genocide committing state like Israel?

I choose to be ruled by Britain even though we have crap Govts at least we are ruled by our own country.