:loopy:i have lived on the manor for 28yrs its not that bad iv been and no werse estates yes its still got a rep but dont lissen to the crap tailes yes im not saying its unsafe as i have two kids just keep ur self to ur self and dont get involved in any elses buisness as on meny other estates i live on the new estate on the fairlighe we dont here or see any trubble dont lissten to ppl slag us and the estate down have a look and walk around and make ur own mind up! and as for 14year old chavs how do u no have u got one pregnant ur self to routh 4 u to show ur face!!!!!!!