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If they have any serious points why dont they start with getting the basics like profitable operations such as err flights! Bugger the restaurant and leisure. Is this supposed to be an airport not a Shopping Mall. People dont go to airports to dine out. If they want to prove to people that they are serious about the project we want to see genuine proposals about what they actually plan on flying out of there. Projected passenger numbers. Proposed flight schedules. Projected traffic. Proposed operational These are the important things. Supplementary facilities come later. Basics first. Sounds to me like they are thinking the wrong way round.

Well lucky old you. Are you taking the Michael???? Those figures are well above the National Average and a damn sight more than most people up here will get as a net annual salary. That's almost the equivillent of 35k pre-tax. Considering the option of Jury Service for most people is a once in a lifetime thing. IF they even get picked at all, for someone who clearly earns a salary as high as yours I would suggest you just get on and do your civic duty. Im sure a week or so of a trial will not break the bank.

Yeah in which case you will receive 64.95 a day in hand. That's almost the equivilent pre-tax daily rate of someone earning £17k a year. Hardly minimum wage stuff. For most people that's a lot more than they will earn normally.

Who cares other than you? Trinity Leeds is nothing more than a redone and slightly exanded Leeds Plaza. Most of the shops on the list are already there. There is probably less than 25 stores which are actually NEW. The rest are an extended or remodelled hash of what already exists. All they have done is bought the three malls of the plaza plus the front units on briggate and put a roof on it. You will find that most of the retailers on the list which are not already in the location do have existing branches elsewhere in the city. So what happens then? For every new unit you will end up with a closed one somewhere else. Its not the second coming.... its a referb of an existing shopping precent. WOW OMG Get me there now. Do you forget that your other multi-millon pound rehash and referb of the Headrow (or Schofields) Centre was a complete disaster. Empty units for months and months on end with locals saying they simply went into get out of the rain. Oh and the The Light with its 34 units with only 1/3 filled. Burton Arcade (renamed) Plaza (renamed) Trinity Schofields Centre (renamed) Headrow Centre (renamed) The Core The Light VQ and Briggate Leeds Markets St Johns Centre Merrion Centre (proposed) Eastgate Quarter All within one compact city area. All fighting for attention. tick tick tick BOOM! Something has got to give. Oh, and lets not forget White Rose owned by the same company as Trinity. Hmmm. Start to run one down to sub the other maybe?

So why are these stores not beating a path to occupy a unit it the city or even the great Meadowhall then? Its nothing to do with the Council that for sure. Any hint that Harvey Nics of Mr Seflridge were looking they would jump at the chance. The handful of people we have here who buy the occasional designer shirt in the sale is not going to match the affluence attracted by other cities. In fact lets put a figure with this..... http://www.sheffieldforum.co.uk/showthread.php?p=9507091#post9507091 ---------- Post added 21-01-2013 at 16:02 ---------- What makes you say then? One poster has very clearly agreed with my viewpoint. Another has not. What did you want to say on the matter then? You spent you time listing all your glorious shopping areas up there. I told you exactly what we have down here. Nearly just as much (with some albeit on a much smaller but fully occupied scale) So your point was?

With some much talk about lack of 'quality' shops in the city and with so many people allegedly travelling to Manchester and Leeds for their shopping.... Please tell how much would do you spend on an normal going out shirt/top/dress under £10 £10-20 £20-50 £50-80 £100+ ????

Victoria Quarter - Harvey Nichols, Paul Smith, Louis Vuitton Nobody in Sheffield would buy from these shops. People think John Lewis is a rip off. Leeds Corn Exchange - 36 units of independents selling fashion, jewellery etc We have the Forum 12 units of independent shops and 2 bar/restaurants. White Rose Shopping Centre - 100+ units out of town (inc. Debenhams, M&S, Zara, Topshop) We have Meadowhall - 280 units and open 7 years ahead of White Rose. Need I say more. Clarence Dock - 45 units (inc. G-Star, Replay, Rock Couture) Yeah and how many other units are occupied. Dont make me laugh. This dodo was on the news not so long ago for its lack of interest and tenants. I also know someone who dealt with the management of the construction of said project and they could not even fill speculative interest. Residential it maybe but other than that dont make it a big concern. We too have Victoria Quays area with 4 large hotels and a handful of "shops" We also have Kelham Island - a mixture of residential and watering holes. Just like clarence dock. Saint John’s Centre - 30 tenants (inc. Dorothy Perkins, Topman, Foot Locker, Clintons) Orchard Square - 27 tenants including a handful of independent shops. Crossgates Shopping - 60 units (inc. Holland & Barrett, New Look, Claire’s) Crystal Peaks Shopping - 100 units including a market area Crown Point shopping park - 28 units (inc. Next, TK Maxx, Mothercare) Healey Retail Park / Meadowhall Retail Park / Drakehouse Retail Park / Kilner Way Retail Park The Light - bars, a cinema, restaurants, a hotel, gym + 32 retail units (inc. Superdry, Ark, Lacoste) Yeah and only 10 of them occupied. Hardly a roring success. We too have a large complex of restaurants/cinema and leisure. Also we have two big square of restaurants and bars in the city centre. Eastgate Quarter (opening 2015) - John Lewis, M&S Still to be built - just like Sevenstone. Hope the money does not run out. tick tock tick tock. Trinity (Opening March 2013) - M&S, Topshop/Topman, H&M, River Island, Next, Apple, Hollister, Cult, Primark, Mango, Carluccio's, Yo Shushi, Giraffe, Handmade, D&D, 'Everyman' independent cinema Which is actually replacing the existing run down and shabby Leeds Plaza. Hardly a major new build. Oh and by the way we already have an "independent cinema". The Showroom has been around for years. Nicely established next door to a bunch of independant media and film companies. Come on Leeds keep up

The money for all child claims are held by the court until their 18th birthday. So in the OP's case I assume that will be a 4 year period. The Court is there to protect the money until such time. They even have the final say over whether a settlement of compensation figure can be approved. I understand what the OP is saying but the Court's priority is protecting that money. They are not a bank or building society. Im sure they could invest it better in higher interest or higher reward schemes. However we all know that investments can go up as well as down. Banks can rise and fall. It would not be doing its duty to "protect" that money if it was too ambitiously invested. Also, many high value accounts lock the money away for 5, 10 years with long notice periods to withdraw. That would go agaisnt the court's duty to provde equipment/aids/medical treatment from those monies if the claimant requires it before their 18th birthday. They have to maintain an instant access to those monies. To be honest, most instant access savings are lucky to get a rate above 0.2% these days. (eg: halifax only offers 0.2% on balances over 250k!) I dont think 0.5% is too bad at all. However, as said by my learned friend above :-) it is possible to move it within strict rules.

From a business travel point of view flying to London is not all its cracked up to be. By the time you have got to the airport, checked in, sat around waiting for departure and taxied and took off, then landed and taxied to the stand, then faffed about during disembarkation. You are still stuck out at Heathrow or even London City (miles from central london). By the time you have then faffed about getting through the airport terminal and spent an hour on the tube or face more expense buying a ticket for the quickerheathrow express to actually get yourself into Central London, which is generally where people need to be. Well, you might as well have got the train. Thats's the beauty of it. You can turn up as little as a few minutes before departure and you are off. When you get into central london St Pancras is pretty much connected with every tube line you need and only generally a handful of stops to where you need to be. Many places or even within walking distance. There are complications with flying which you dont get with a train. If a meeting overruns and you miss your plane then what? You could be waiting hours. You cant just take the next one half an hour later. Many people travelling on business need that flexibility which flights dont offer. Even when I do have to travel to Belfast or Dublin for work which does invovle flying I will deliberate book on the later evening flights to avoid such issues or even travel the day before and/or after the meetings

So you choose not to pay - big deal? Well done to NOT providing a contribution to hospital funds. People get away with shoplifting from Asda every day. People override on buses every day. People get train rides at peak hours for free every day. Its not something to be proud of.

I will have one more go with you. I will put this in simple terms. EMPLOYER - owns company and all IP and assests. They put THEIR money into it. They invest continually THEIR money into it. They are the ones who will lose some or all of it when things go tits up. Therefore they can run it exactly how they like. Close it, outsource it, sell it, merge it or anything else in between. THEY pay the employees wages and therefore can hire, fire, make redundant or reduce hours they see fit. As long as they are within the law. Its their money - they pull the strings. EMPLOYEE - servant or agent to that company contracted to do a specific job role specified controlled and wholly managed by the employer in return for a contracted salary and statutory and/or additional benefits. i.e. has NO money, investment or liabilities into the company. i.e has absolutly naff all control or ownership over the assets or intellectual property. i.e. cannot choose to use said assets (which they dont own) to make money for themselves (which is illegal) when the company is be paying them to do work (which becomes a breach of contract) Of course. EMPLOYERS own the bloody assets and property. They can do what they like with them. Its their property. Employee owns naff all. Thus no right to so much breathe on anything without the employers authorisation. Of course. How else woud it work. Employee and Employer are two very different things. Could not care less. I have told you earlier. Businesses are there to make money not be moral. If you dont like it that way make sure YOU are the employer rather than the employee. Hey, you could choose to run your business all moral and equal and fair.... just the way you think it should be. That would be great eh??? Just think of all the money you could potentially make being all fair and moral. Im sure you employees would think just the same and not take the p*** at all.

From Council website... Filling Grit Bins We fill grit bins at the start of the season and again whenever we know that they are empty. We aim to keep them 30% full so please let us know if they are running low. Some grit bins are owned by other organisations so we only the replenish the ones that belong to us. Report a grit (salt) bin as running low, or empty. Why dont you report an empty bin and they might come out and fill it then. Im sure that even Amey are not psychic.

You are not being charged becuase your relatives or ill or you are having to attend an appointment. You are CHOOSING to drive there and use the nice convenient parking spaces outside the door. They dont HAVE to provide you parking. Many clinics, consulting rooms and GP surgeries dont even have any car parking. Paying tax has nothing to do with it. We all pay taxes - many of us dont even drive (maybe they should get a refund). We all pay taxes but many of us never claim any benefits (maybe those people should get a refund) We all pay taxes but councils still charge for on street or local authoirty owned car parks. When will people understand. Car parking is a convenience not a right. you choose to use it. pay for it.

You seem to be under some delusion that the profit making world of business has a moral duty to look after you no matter what the costs to the business. WAKE UP. A business has one sole purpose. Make money. An employee is paid to do as they are told and be a cog in thier machine. Your reward for being there is your nice regular salary and statutory benefits. If you dont like what that particular company does - then you are free to leave and go to another one or start your own. You are entitled to a regulated amount holiday and leave. You are protected by a maximum working hours. You are entitled to statutory break periods and time between shifts. On the flip side an employer is free to recruit or make redundant as they see fit in line with their profits and overheads. They are perfectly free to reduce, cut or outsource those overheads. They are perfectly free to close the firm if they see fit. Harsh as it is - the law offers statutory redundancy and statutory rights for those unfortunate employees in that situation. See some laws benefit employees/some laws benefit employers. 50/50. Remember, they are not there to operate morally. They just need to act legally and within their terms of employment. An employee does not have to be moral either they just have to adhere to their terms of employment. 50/50 again. Now back to this rediculous thread. This clever dick (an I am convinced that's exactly what he though he was) employee outsourced was not his to do so. He had absolutely no right legally or morally (since you are so keen on the subject) to use his employers property and send it to another party to make money for HIMSELF. You can dress it up how you want but as far as I can see its pure theft. Whichever way you look it. This guy was using somone else's resources/intellectual property/data/possessions without authority/permission or ownership. Whether you like it or not the company is in the right here. I dont know quite what planet you are on but you really need to come down to earth and take your place in the real world. If you want to live in some morally fair utopia then you are out of luck. The human race has never been equal. There will always be workers and there will always be bosses. You cant have everyone equal. How would society really work like that?

Threads like this never cease to amaze me. Firstly there is not and never has been an unlimited fleet of gritters spreading around every street, lane and pavement 24/7. As another poster has very sensibly provided a list of the hundreds of primary and secondary roads that are on the roster. How long do you seriously think it takes to do that lot every time they are required to do so? Secondly, in MOST parts of the city all we are talking about is a little flurry of the white stuff barely a few cm high. That includes MOST of the roads which, at its current slush consistancy is hardly impassible. But as per usual.. as is the same every time it so much as gets frosty..... everyone is screaming waaaa. where are the gritters???. waaaa. I have had to slow down slightly!!! waaaaa. My drive home has been made longer!!! waaa My drive home has been a slight challenge. waaaa I have had to take it steady. waaaaa. I might not be able to get on my minor road. waaa. i might have to walk a few feet..... ....Come on people lets get a grip. Its a flurry of a light snow not the bloody artic circle. There are countries in the world that have 10 times this 6 months of the year. Amazing how they seem to cope every day every week without all this fuss. I have tonight managed to get from a arse end of Derbyshire across to North Sheffield through this frosty armageddon in a bog standard two wheel drive small hatchback. Its very possible. Just slow down, allow more time and take a few precautions. Its not rocket science.

Because you and/or your healthcare insurance are paying hundreds or thousands of pounds a day directly to the private hospital company for your treatment/service/respite or residency used and populated by a few select persons. Its a bit different to a state funded national health service used and populated by the masses.

Because parking on the hospital grounds is a convenience offered not a god given right. If you dont want to pay the relevant parking charge find somewhere off site or dont drive there. Not every hospital offers oodles of parking for nothing. In fact I bet none of them do. Thousands of people are on hospital sites all day every day. There would never ever be enough free parking spaces to cope with all that its rediculous to think so. If you CHOOSE to drive there and take the convenience of parking outside the door - tough - pay the fee. Hospitals need money. Parking charges are a way of income - just like street parking in cities, council car parks etc. How do you think people attending the hundreds of clinics and surgerys with no parking at all cope.

Im not saying its perfect. But every case is decided as present there and then. You cannot lock people up forever. Eventually someone will complete their sentence and be released. Thats what we do in this civilised country - we rehabilitiate. We dont kill people. There is no eye for an eye. We dont take away someone's life locking them in a cell until they die just for what COULD have been a one off loss of reason or rational thought. Some people think it should be like that. However, more people think against. You are right to say that society and PEOPLE have much of the blame not just the justice system. Health and safety exists because people claim. Compensation culture exists becuase people see it was a way of getting money. We do this to ourselves. Lack of respect exists because some people bread kids without thought or care. Popping out a child is nothing these days. No planning, no thought, no care. If I cant be bothered the state will look after it for me. That's how we end up to young ones causing trouble leading to more teen pregnancies who bread troublesome unsupported children of their own. The Justice system can only do so much and only do what the laws allow them to do. PEOPLE need to take responsibility too. ---------- Post added 16-01-2013 at 22:49 ---------- Pretentious? I was stating facts. Unlike the OP in their post. Should I have dumbed down the wording? Should I have said jury and big wig judge instead? Sorry for using legal terminology but that's my trade. Now whether the OP wanted a reaction or not I really could not care. They got one and whilst they are wetting themselves laughing I have actually got a debate moving better than their "rant" .

If the OP was more along the lines of..... was it enough... do you think it is too weak.... what does everything think..... then I may have been less dismissive. However, throwing matter of fact phrases such as.... "pathetic sentence" "piece of filth" "proof of a justice system that has no clue" "Lets just hope he has an accident" I think I was perfectly justified being dismissive. This tread was not a debate it was an clear attack on the legal and justice system and the said Defendant. Considering I work in the said profession and have spent considerable time and money studying to get where I am, I dont appreciate being told my profession is "pathetic" and "has no clue" from the OP. I would like them to answer my questions.

Of course not that's the point. That's what puts them in a position to be a judge. They know the law. They know about sentencing and which are appropraite. Yes lay panel is "code" for jury. Well not even code. Just another name for it. Lay person, lay persons, lay panel whatever you want to call it Its all the same thing. independant persons with no necesarilly legal training listen to the facts as presented to make a decision. You may well be right regards the barring order. I did not fully read the sentencing remarks. Either way - the judge deemed it appropratie for said offence(s). What annoys me with treads like this is exactly what the OP has done. They always think they know better. Every sentence is "never enough" every decision is a court is always seen as "weak". How do they know? What possible reasons do they have to think that it was either of those things. Nobody except those in the court at the time know anything about the matter. Even the quoted article has several comments below doubting the circumstances of the incident so who is to say that the sentence is not "too harsh" I have no problem with anyone having a rant if its justified and factual. However, ranting about something or someone they are not involved with and knowing no facts whatsoever about just gets my goat.

It probably knows more than you. Are you personally involved in the matter? Were you present throughout the hearing? Did you read all the witness statements and look through all the evidence in detail? No.....?? Well you know jack about anything then. A legally qualified judge has listened to collated evidence from a legally qualified prosecution and defence Counsel which in turn has been decided upon by a lay panel with a legally qualified judge deciding the appropriate judgment of custodial sentence plus a barring order for 5 years. i.e a total of just under 7 years punishment. What does your legally trained, experienced custodial mind suggest then. Flog him to a pulp with a tree trunk??? Lock him away for 20 years?? Death?? Everybody knows best dont they That's why the system is the way it is. Judgment is based on reasoned arguments, presented evidence, presented statements, and a debated reasoned judgment with sentencing decided by an appropriate experienced person. Jesus god imagine the state of society if Courts were presided over by hysterical and emotive panels full of witch hunters frothing at the mouth. Its nearly as bad as the thought of the Daily Fail hate campaigns actually being taken literally. Every public faux outpouring actually being actioned. Every single pointless petition by some silly emotive prat was actually debated and drafted as law..... The prisons would be overflowing overnight and we will drag ourselves back to the Puritan age.

I agree with you about the first thing and in a way that's what insurers are already doing. Everyone is crippled in the first every year of insurance. As for your age things - you cant seriously block someone for their potentially 8 years of a working life not being able to drive. age 25 before even being behind the wheel is rediculous. Its a discrimination again. Why 25? There are plenty of good drivers at 17-18 years old who never have an accident. Just as there are plenty of very bad "experienced" drivers at 50-60 who bump, scrape and collide their way round every journey. Nobody should get any preference. Just because you are born with our without a penis does not make any better/worse driver. Just because you pass your test at 20 or 50 years old does not mean you are any more/less likely to have a crash. An nice example from my experience is this bizzare phenomenon. By selecting an option between legal assistant/paralegal/solicitor/legal advisor or company director can vary my annual quote by as much as £120.00 each way. WHY?? Its practically the same job. Sitting at a desk in a nice cosy office. This needs to be stopped. Sex/age/race/job is nonsense. It should be about how many accidents/near misses/driving penalties - including minor speeding YOU have that should matter and only matter.

Boo hoo. Nothing to get up for..... Try harder. Work doesn't get handed to you on a plate. She had 12 months to find work before this placement even came into her situation. What about some education, training during those 12 months?? What about some volunteer work during those 12 months?? No far better to "conserve energy" by staying in bed all day eh....

Yes I did. And maybe - as she said in the documentary - if she was not "sleeping all day" like a "beached whale" and actually got off her a*se and properly looked for a job during her previous 12 months on the dole she might not have been put on the forced work placement. You think I am going to give sympathy to that? Like I say, its about taking responsbility for your situation. Nobody LIKES having to work but you grow up and get on with it.

^^^^^^^ Agreed. Cant say im surprised at all. Amazed its lasted this long. They have been complete rip off merchants for years. Even 5-10 years ago I would look around HMV then nip off to Asda, Sainsburys or even Blockbuster Video to buy the same items much cheaper. Even well before the burden of the internet. Andys records, Our Price and Woolies were always preferred over HMV.