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Why on earth would you want to cross the entire city. I could walk to the other end of town in 30 minutes from nether edge.

I know. Get yourself down to ecclesall / hallam.

companies are a fiction. People are real. People create revenue and execute not 'companIes'.

Been running my own companies and businesses for 19 years. 6 years at business school. I understand. But what point are you trying to make exactly? You and cyclone should get together and discuss this.

Companies dont exist. They are a fiction. When you say the company pays for this and that, who are you referring to exactly?

Shareholders dont produce revenue. Anyone that believes otherwise is a dimwit. ---------- Post added 29-10-2015 at 11:20 ---------- See post #342 for further guidance.

So the entire staff of next stop selling clothing today, what happens to the revenue?

Youve no idea how big companies raise capital on an individual basis, im sure the chairman of next on £4 million is not riskIng his personal inherited wealth. ---------- Post added 29-10-2015 at 11:01 ---------- And youre completely wrong anyway. Revenue is generated from the output of the workforce.

Many disabled people have worked for years and then become either mentally or physically unable to work or hold down a job.

Profits are generated by hard working staff. its right that they should receive compensation in the form of a fair wage. ---------- Post added 29-10-2015 at 10:41 ---------- http://www.politics.co.uk/reference/national-minimum-wage according to this the NMW was introduced in 1999. Not that its in the slightest bit relevant. Ive been working since i was 14, my first job was helping out on the milkround for £1.50 per hour. So the answer is yes.

Welfare systems a mess and having an advisor at food banks just going to add to the problem

Was I around before the NMW? What sort of nonsense is that?

You're talking rubbish now

I've never said profit is bad. Trot on.

A 30 minute walk isn't close or classed as neighbourhood. I can get to a variety of places within 5 minutes. ---------- Post added 28-10-2015 at 22:28 ---------- Another 167 quid is not to be sniffed at.

New labour are the culprits. Not tories. ---------- Post added 28-10-2015 at 22:22 ---------- In your mind. I actually said more of the profits of mne should go somewhere else than private shareholders pockets.

Just ridiculous now, not even gonna counter a strawman argument. I have never said profit is bad and we or businesses can't make profits. So you need to think of another tactic sunshine.

A living wage solves a lot of problems. Better than a high welfare low wage society ---------- Post added 28-10-2015 at 22:12 ---------- Some possible downsides, not even looking at the myriad of advantages. That's typical of your narrow minded view. ---------- Post added 28-10-2015 at 22:14 ---------- If costs increase higher than income. I don't think that will happen in the majority of cases. They said a similar thing before NMW introduction.

Of course there can be profit, don't be stupid ---------- Post added 28-10-2015 at 22:09 ---------- Why you think? Me thinks you've lost the argument

Why no lemding? ---------- Post added 28-10-2015 at 17:07 ---------- Tesco make 2 billion profit per annum. They will survive. concerns for sme who need a bit more help. ---------- Post added 28-10-2015 at 17:08 ---------- Localisation is the way to go.

The tories are right on this one. a move to a high wage, low welfare economy is best They just go about it too savagely. ---------- Post added 28-10-2015 at 16:42 ---------- Really. Instead of private shareholders, more money goes into the economy via the people who produce it.

Controversial Al, care to explain? ---------- Post added 28-10-2015 at 16:38 ---------- youre dreaming. I work on a 1000% mark up. what must tesco etc work on? 4000%? The better companies will survive nicely. Profits are unpaid wages. ---------- Post added 28-10-2015 at 16:38 ---------- youre dreaming. I work on a 1000% mark up. what must tesco etc work on? 4000%? The better companies will survive nicely. Profits are unpaid wages.

Its not a rise directly in line with inflation. Inflation is artificially low due to price of crude oil. Its actually a rise above inflation. But only a few pence and still the rise will be worth it, for the reasons stated. Plus the bonus of reduced welfare bill. ---------- Post added 28-10-2015 at 16:28 ---------- Whitbread said the price of coffee goes up 5p above inflation. Next say 1% above inflation. Its not inflated away. ---------- Post added 28-10-2015 at 16:30 ---------- Its a price rise. But dont overstate matters. if you add on £2 to nmw thats about £400 extra per month.

And whats the other consequence...prices go up. ---------- Post added 28-10-2015 at 15:19 ---------- Prices go up...it doesnt automatically follow people lose their jobs. Although it might work out that way for some.

thats exactly whats happening. What you think the gov living wage is??? It will still never be more than output.