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Shop 'em - thieving scum.

I'm glad I could amuse you SS.

But we aren't born equal either. Some are born genetically more capable than others, and more likely to succeed. I'm sorry, but we are not equal. Equality is a concept that people have embraced for some time now but it is utterly and profoundly illogical - no two people can be the same, so how can they be equal? And, expanding on your other point, you agree that one person can be better than another, so how are they equal? That just baffles me.

There are plenty of xenophobic Thatcherites around - nothing wrong with that in my book. As for Walter Mitty types, plenty of those as well, met a few and sad they are, but not something I have ever been able to conclude from a keyboard encounter. Perhaps, instead, his claimed experiences and knowledge are just so far beyond your own limited aspect that you are unable to comprehend, or believe, things he has said. 'All to apparent' you say? Assumption based on (very) limited knowledge is never a sure thing, perhaps your narrowness of world experience might, to him, be 'all too apparent'.

Wow, quick with the personal insults here - did he insult you that badly, or are youm just bitter that you couldn't have the better of him in a debate? Do tell how he was exposed to be a simpleton - I'm all ears. Does it occur to you that he might, unlike many on here, actually have been honest who knew what he was talking about?

Yes, like that engineer, not the random erroneous and/or irrelevant clips in the rest of that typically poor series of tabloid-style clips. The interviewer kept saying he had ‘evidence’ there was molten steel found and tested - where, and who by? Firemen don’t deal with ‘molten steel’. They could have come across other things molten, like aluminium, but not steel. An informal interview with a fireman who says he saw ‘molten steel like a volcano’ - mm, did he sample it and show it was steel? Of course not, he just used the term ‘steel’ because he didn’t know what it was. Have you any idea how difficult it is to melt steel? Another fireman ‘estimated’ some temperatures at 1500 degrees- it was, he said ‘glowing like and oven’. Now that’s a beauty - glowing red, at 1500 degrees. Do you understand anything of the electromagnetic spectrum? Do you understand that colours are produced at specific temperatures? A bright cherry-red metal may indeed be 1300-1500 degrees F, so that’s okay. And that sort of magnitude is believable, because jet fuel burns at a little over 1500F, and a large mass of debris will take a long time to cool, so 1500 (ish) F oven-looking hot is believable, even though most of the fires were dark-smoked and therefore much cooler - probably under 1000F. But, steel melts at 2700F, at which temperature it is dazzlingly white hot (have you ever been in a foundry when they’re pouring from the furnace? I have). So there was no molten steel. Aluminium melts at just 1200F, so if they saw molten metal, it could have been aluminium. The temperatures were enough to cause annealing of steel, which happens from around 1200F, and to cause thermal distortion and weakening which would cause the ’hung’ floors to detach from their anchor points. Once one floor went, the weight on the floor below would massively exceed any strength that could be designed into it, and the pancake collapse was inevitable. And discount the explosives ‘theories’. To plant enough demolition explosives to bring down those building would have taken months of work, with dozens and dozens of demolition workers spending weeks, if not months, setting many tons of explosives, and connecting lines. Ripping out building innards to get to structural steel and generally turning the place into a building site. Now, here’s a biggie - do you think anybody might have noticed? Rather than making sarcastic comments and attempting to be patronising with somebody who knows and understands more fact and science about this subject than you ever could, try instead opening your mind to reality, not fantasy.

If you want to learn more, google is your friend. But please don\'t jump to conclusions about cage training - it\'s a very useful method which helps produce happy balanced and obedient dogs.

If you did this, could a good solicitor get you off in court based on your following of teachings of a religion which has been the foundation of our society?

So, based on what we do with our lives and the people we become, we are not equal, is that what you\'re saying, or is the chav as good a person as the nurse?

Why do you think I know less about it than you do? What makes you think that - I really would like to know. Where did you get your \'accurate\' information? Tell me, what is your profession - do you know much about aircraft operations, explosives, or engineering? Do you have access to what really happens behind the scenes with these events? Do you have any involvement with counter-terrorism? Because I can\'t help but think you\'re just another armchair expert who knows nothing. A hyperlink to some crank website and a speculative documentary by a journalist who makes a living by making things look more than they are don\'t add up to a government conspiracy. You\'re welcome to believe that they do, but you\'ll continue to be wrong.

It\'s a matter of interpretation really SS, and while Zamo\'s posts are indeed sometimes thought provoking, do not flatter yourself to think you can identify a statement that might stimulate a mind so far beyond the boundaries of your own. I don\'t believe we fought and won two world wars to worry about an illegal immigrant whose very presence here is attributable to the incompetence of a socialist government which refuses to control immigration. The right of this country’s inhabitants to be indomitable Brits who may speak their minds and consign political correctness to the history of mistakes along with kipper ties and failure to make Powell PM, that is something I could admire.

Actually, my angle is something that the dreamers among us need to sit back and think about. There are plenty of burger-flippers, van drivers, shop assistants and care workers who watch tv, follow internet links and think they understand the towers and the aircraft. Those are the sort of people who get excited and thing something spooky is going on. Others among us are chartered engineering who understand things like aircraft accidents, building construction, explosives and demolition, structural failure mechanisms, and government/military security procedures. We know otherwise, and find the conspiracy theorists to be worryingly naive and deluded. We know that to be the case. It entertains me for one to hear these silly ideas, but it does dent my faith in my fellow man\'s capacity for sensible thought.

Then you clearly do not understand how cages are used in dog training.

Boas and other reptiles don\'t need a huge range of natural habitat. Boas eat, rest, and the cycle repeats. A live bunny every couple of weeks is all the stimulus they need.

The truth hurts, does it? So, if we take a chav, thick as mince, who refuses to work preferring to make a few quid dealing ecstasy, and with multiple convictions for mugging little old ladies, is he of equal worth compared with, say, a paediatric nurse who dedicates her free time to raising money for children with leukaemia?