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  1. It ceases to be so strange, once you place it into a wider context of securing a no-deal outcome at any cost. Because in that context, any messaging of any sort by ERG types (and/ or their political captives) is all about confusing and distracting to buy a little more time to year end and, this close to the finish line, literally any old guff will do (exhibit A: Gavin Williamson today...so many before him, so many still to come before month end). Meanwhile, adults in the room talk about the 'simplified' NI-GB customs paperwork and the 11 millions (not a typo) of forms that will start getting filled and processed from 1st January (-assuming there is a deal, that is, and of course).
  2. The UK government gave Pfizer an indemnity about any adverse effects of the vaccine. The EU27 are holding out for an all-clear by the EMA, to ensure that Pfizer carries its liability. No partisanship, just reported facts, feel free to draw your own conclusions. FWIW, mine are that Johnson needed a dead big cat to bounce, because Barnier's shot across HMS UK's bows over the IMB/Tax Bill, in his briefing to EU ambassadors yesterday, was rather too close for comfort. He's just about made it over over the line with 'no deal', only a few more days to hold out now.
  3. Yes please. Those articles in the Telegraph, the Times and assorted other red tops, likewise the editorial selectivity apparent at the BBC, full of Leavers and ignorant types kicking a fuss about obvious and long-announced consequences of Brexit that are now beginning to play out at last, are worth a smirk at best. This Brexit Season 1 final episode got boring fast, not enough drama by a long shot. Looking forward to Brexit Season 2 starting on 1st January
  4. If the Mail thinks standard visa duration for 3rd country nationals throughout the EU is outrageous, and you think this is funny... ...just wait until the Mail finds out how home/villa owners from 3rd countries are treated for tax in some of these countries
  5. It was less a joke, than an analogy to illustrate the point. You guys are 35 days away from time up and, reading messages now coming out left, right and centre from British hauliers, wholesalers, med distribution and more (messages that are getting absolutely no visibility whatsoever in British MSM), and realising that any deal reached this late can only amount to WTO-with-lipstick... ...the time for jokes is well past, tbh.
  6. I have done no such thing, so you can grab that strawman and shove it. Whole or diced, that is up to you.
  7. And there was a million people march and demo about Brexit, yet enough of the public forgot the austerity visited on them for 9 years by the Tories, when Johnson was dangling his 'get Brexit done' sloganeering baubles at them last December. I don't dispute your point, Mister M, and I'm keenly aware of pressure groups. But I'm just as keenly aware of their complete inefficiency in a political context as widely polarised (on many levels) as in the last few years, besides the public's habitual fickleness. You can call that cynicism if you wish, I really don't mind
  8. I comprehend that perfectly fine, thanks: it was exactly my point!
  9. But then, this Slovakia that they would choose today, is today's socio-economic equivalent of the UK 40 years ago - and that is exactly what the EU is all about: lifting all boats with the tide. That is how and why the UK became a net contributor, likewise Germany, likewise France, likewise Ireland (in 2016, after 43 years)...eventually, so will Slovakia, and manufacturing will likely move yet again, as that country transitions to a knowledge-based economy like its forefathers did. What you do not comprehend (or refuse to accept) is that the older/larger members should lift and help the new members to become as successful as them, instead of seeking to exploit them colony-like. There's no place left for that worldview nowadays: if you're not a wagon collaborating with the others in the circle, well...good luck dealing with the indians outside on your own.
  10. And Nissan UK did not over the last 40-odd years? GM, Ford, Honda and BMW-Mini did not over the last 20-odd years? You really should read Fintan O'Toole's "Heroic Failure: Brexit and the Politics of Pain".
  11. Wishful thinking, and with 3.5 years to go with an 80-seat majority, more than ample time to normalise and foster forgetfulness amongst the masses. Drowning opposition and dissent in ever more dead cats bounced at a rate of knots, is what the Tories learned best from the alt right playbook in recent years.
  12. Now take that worldview, move it to Stuttgart (e.g.) and, throughout the above, replace 'British' with 'German'. Then revert to Pettytom's question that you were replying to. For West's economic worldview to 'work' (regardless of its (in)efficiency), it is contingent on the rest of the world doing the same. Why would it?
  13. British workers have been doing a good job for Nissan for around 40 years now, because their employer could move production at a moment's notice? Likewise for BMW-Mini for around 20 years? Don't you think it could have more to do with consensus-seeking management, staff training and upskilling, regular investment in facilities, <...>? You know, with running UK facilities "like they do in Japan" (and in Germany)? There's a number of reasons the UK has carried such a red lantern in productivity league tables for so many years. Based on 20-odd years working in the UK, I tend to believe that's not attributable to British workers' skills or working ethic at all, but to "make mend and do" short-termism by British management for eking the last penny of profit out of the joint and sod tomorrow. Brexit is just another example of that, on a grander, national scale. It's a political British-Leyland and, eventually, it will have the same end. It's inevitable.
  14. The UK (edit: industry) was 'a failure' when it joined the EU in 1973. But for the political failure of the past few years, it hasn't been 'a failure' at any time since. There is still the barest of times left, for the UK to avoid becoming 'a failure' again over the next few years (and to avoid becoming "not the UK anymore"), out of Brexit, Covid and exploitation by neocapitalists far and wide...if only it will manage to pause its political falling, like the US just did. Meanwhile, French customs ran a real-life test of their Brexit-ready system with Eurotunnel freight traffic yesterday. Perhaps predictably (alright, completely predictably ) the result was a five-mile lorry queue in Kent.
  15. Well, you've been such an authority about the Irish so far... Who's mentioned the Guardian now? Are you drunk?
  16. The UK left the EU last January, so the vote has been respected. Now, which version of Brexit was that vote for? Before it became a net contributor to the EU for the very first time in 2016, Ireland had been "sponging at the EU's teat" since 1973. That's 42 years of "sponging". That, a world class educational system, and the absence of brain-rotting bilge like The Express, The Daily Mail, The Sun <etc.> goes a long way to explain why EU membership has a positive approval rating for over 90% of the Irish population (-as polled): the very vast majority of the Irish know and understand perfectly well, what their 40+ years of EU membership eventually did for them. A non-trivial portion also understand very well how good a job their government did with Brexit over the last 4 years, and what Biden's arrival in the White House means in that respect. Meanwhile, 52% of UK voters believe(d) in bendy banana rules, 'lost' sovereignty', 'uncontrollable' immigration and "sponging" Brussels. Then proceeded to put Johnson, Cummings, Gove and that Rees-Mogg cabal into 10 Downing street. As an accidental result, and accessorily a proven consequence, massive tax contributors leave the City of London for Dublin. Well. Keep the one liners. And the change.
  17. Irrespectice of its legal basis, it's a point of debate, and well made in context. It is absolutely the UK's sovereign right to impoverish its food sources and supply, by design (and 4 years on, with a few 'no deal' deadlines that flew by already, it has to be by design, surely you will agree). In the absence of a war, and now in the midst of a pandemic, you have to wonder about the wisdom of it, however. Particularly when, objectively, it's a byproduct (amongst all the other consequences) of nothing more than an internecine conflict within the Conservatives party. So defending that byproduct as some desirable outcome, is reaching paroxysms of denial. Probably to the point of warranting clinical attention, tbh.
  18. Well, we're talking about you here, and you've never had any problem sticking one up to the EU, regardless of facts and objectivity. So easier or not, same difference, really. That was over 4 years ago. 52% of all votes cast at the last GE, favoured non-Brexit parties (LibDems, SNP, Greens, Sinn Fein, Plaid Cymru & Alliance). There isn't a single poll anywhere in the UK now, which still gives Leave a majority. So no, they would not. Can you eat that? I mean, you started this with farmers. Where are you going?
  19. retep, I'm already well aware that "sticking one up to the EU" is more important to you than eating. What about the other UK residents? And what do you do about that 30% supply shortfall in the meantime? Soylent green? You can't exactly fast-forward vegetable growth and animal gestation.
  20. They certainly will, unless your government enforces full customs and tariffs from 1st January 2021. But on that last front, it was recently revealed that only around 10% of the 50,000 customs officers required for that particular job, has been trained and is ready...and the private sector is busy poaching from that 10% with government grant funds (FT last month). The UK is not self-sufficient for food, by a very long shot. That's not news, and hardly contentious. You quote Aldi, but only 40% of their fresh produce is British. Lidl claims that "2 out of every 3 products in their permanent range is from a British supplier", but that's not the same as the products being British (British suppliers are perfectly capable of importing foodstuffs for Lidl UK), nor the same as all their products (how much of that 'permanent range' is fresh produce...if any of it?) So given the above, the timescale in play, and the reasonable assumption that 60+m UK residents need to eat on a regular enough basis, short to medium term your pragmatic choice is between: exposing your agrifood sector to unbridled overseas competition (and they certainly have much more to fear from non-EU competition, than from EU27 competition, even factoring geographical proximity) to keep food on UK tables; or ration foodstuffs whilst the government bootstraps-subsidises the UK agrifood massively, on a scale not seen since the 1940s dig-for-victory war effort. Unless Johnson BRINO's the UK at the 11th hour, just before he steps down and does a runner Cameron-style in early 2021 , of course. You can quip, moan and one-line sloganeer it all you like. Them's your choices.
  21. With your government's plans to wave customs checks and tariffs on imports, I'm not sure why EU27 farmers need any commiserations. British farmers, on the other hand...
  22. Whatever. I'm reporting a consequence of the Leave vote, and commiserating with those made to suffer from it against their will. That is all.
  23. Nissan rumoured to have taken a decision about Sunderland. Tough on those who didn't vote for it.
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