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Usually people that start a post with "so your saying..." aren't clarifying anything I've said. So no I'm not saying whatever it is you think I am. Nowhere have I said I'm on the left so....

There is no Q to jump. If people arrive in the UK they can claim Asylum. And of course some of those arriving in boats are in fact women and children. They are not all men from Albania.

Agreed but we can't stop people claiming Asylum. Interestingly, no one seems to be making a fuss about refugees that don't enter via small boats.

The number might be true. What I'm saying that is not necessarily true is that all 6000 are laughing at us and are not genuine refugees

Irrevalent, we can't impose limits of refugees. We don't need to impose limits on those entering legally because we control those through visa requirement. You're also not taking into consideration those that leave the UK either voluntarily or forcibly. You also seem to think that anyone entering the country as a migrant is somehow immune to the cost of living crisis, lack of services, no housing. If these things are affecting everyone, the same goes for migrants. And then whatever lies have been sold to them are soon exposed.

I would if it were true. But we don't know the reasons those people have claimed asylum and we could be helping people. Also to note, not everyone seeking asylum is from Albania.

It's not unfortunate for me really because I know that no government will get a handle on this. Whether it's Labour and Tory we will still take in refugees. And out of those 6000 how many do you know are not genuine? Bear in mind, you don't have to just be fleeing a war torn country to claim Asylum

Not really. You haven't told me anything new.

See? This response is exactly my point. Apparently I'm a leftie liberal because I've educated someone that has been taken in by typical daily mail headlines. It's sad to see so many people so deeply entrenched in their views

My views on immigration are very centralised. Obviously there's genuine and non genuine but I think today it's very easy to lump everyone together on both sides of the argument. This is what the Tories are doing currently to get tough on immigration

And you're assuming they all aren't. It's not a crime which is why no one is being prosecuted. And there's no rule to say that you must be seeking refuge from the last country you passes through. You're making things up. We do security check them. What do you think immigration staff do when they encounter them? They don't give then money and send them straight on their way

Whatever money being spent on Rwanda to actually be spent on employing more immigration staff so that once a claim has failed or someone has no right to stay, they are moved through the system quicker

Those British rough sleepers would be entitled to more support. So there's probably other reasons why No one is saying otherwise

It's not but it's also not hard to see families living in mouldy makeshift accommodation. It's a misconception that everyone entering is put up in plush hotels. Most are put wherever has a roof. Would you prefer them to live on the street?

The point being that there is a misconception that anyone entering the UK via small boat is living the life of Riley, being put up in a lavish hotel with access to benefits. The bit of money they are given goes to many things that they need to live off which the daily mail don't report upon. All while their Asylum claim gets considered which could be years.

So aside from it being £45 and additional money for children what I said was correct. And what's weak about it? Do you prefer people/children to starve to death?

I'm sorry but it's not a crime. That's what the Tories are trying to do. See this is the issue. Seeking Asylum is not a crime, being a refugee is not a crime. Entering a country as a refugee is not a crime. And there's no mandate to state that asylum must be claimed immediately upon entry. So no they aren't criminals. We just don't like the way they are entering the country.

What's their crime?

No leaky roofs, mould infested rooms etc?

And they have more access rights to housing, charities, benefits, local authority support. It's a myth that anyone entering the country via boat is treated better than our own.

They aren't brought up to standard which is the reason why.

Well that's too bad. We're not a nation that allows people to live on the streets and deny them basic human rights.

Sorry but not all of that is true. Yes free shelter, they don't get free food. Their given around £40 for the week to survive on which includes food, toiletries etc. Also that money does not increase if they have children with them. Free healthcare and free education yes because we aren't a scumbag country

I'm suggesting getting off this forum, off the internet and go outside, go swimming now that no one is banning you, walk down some train tracks, stick your head out of a train window, do anything other than post on this forum all day. And yes before you say it, I've replied to most of your posts today and yes Ive wasted my day in doing so.

Take a break for crying out loud! You've named dropped me 3 times across 2 threads. You are aware we can go outside again right?