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  1. 22 minutes ago, Chekhov said:

    Coming from someone who does not think it is a basic human right to be able to meet anyone you want whenever you want to, you are in no position to tell anyone they are an extremist.


    I don't know what you are talking about, but I would say it is exceptionally arrogant of you to think you should be the ultimate arbiter of if anyone is sufficiently upset by wearing a  face mask to "deserve" an exemption.

    Fortunately facemasks are no longer legally mandated any where, whatever you may think.


    Chekov said : With all due respect, you haven't answered the question :

    And if the answer is yes, when do those people think these measures should be dropped ?

    1 - Now ?

    2 - When some threshold is reached (and if so what threshold) ?

    3 - Never, all visitors to care homes (and the staff) should have to wear a mask and be tested for Covid forever.

    With all due respect, I did not ask for a prediction, I asked you what has to change for you to think care homes should get back to normal.

    And you failed t answer the question.

    This is no surprise because right through this Pandemic nightmare I have repeatedly asked suppressionists what has to change for us to get back to normal (e.g. what has the death rate per infection got to drop to, or what has the %age vaccinated got to be for us to get back to normal), and they almost never answer the question......

    I'm not a suppressionist and it's just a made up term. When you are asking for answers to things that haven't happened, it's a prediction.


    But care homes are back to normal. Just like hospitals, blood donor centres, dentists, doctor's etc. An additional precautionary measure does not mean less care. 


    Plain and simple, you don't want people wearing masks. Well tough because it's happening whether you agree or not

  2. 6 hours ago, Chekhov said:

    With all due respect, you haven't answered the question :


    And if the answer is yes, when do those people think these measures should be dropped ?


    1 - Now ?

    2 - When some threshold is reached (and if so what threshold) ?

    3 - Never, all visitors to care homes (and the staff) should have to wear a mask and be tested for Covid forever.

    I don't give predictions because they may turn out to be meaningless. 


    But if you want meaningful answers then you aren't going to get any crystal ball gazers responding to you. Dr Tops might help you. 


    He predicted all vaccine users would die by now.....

  3. 9 minutes ago, Chekhov said:

    Care homes are still requiring Covid tests and masks. They continue to be looked after by people looking like extras from a 1970s SciFi disaster movie

    The residents are now all quadruple vaccinated, and most of those in my Mother In Law's care home have already had Covid in April 2020 anyway.

    Is there really anyone on here who thinks this is proportionate ? 

    And if the answer is yes, when do those people think these measures should be dropped ?

    Never ?

    They are basic safety precautions for the most vulnerable...by nature of them being in care homes.


    Having covid does not mean you'll never have it again.


    Vaccines don't prevent transmission


    Measures shouldn't be dropped just like washing your hands after using the toilet shouldn't be dropped.


    All of this has been said countless times. You are either ignoring it or repeating the question until you get an answer you like..

  4. 30 minutes ago, West 77 said:

    Correct extra civil servants were hired temporary to help with Brexit.  Now Brexit has been sorted they are no longer needed which is why they will be made redundant. 

    Surely it would make sense not to make them redundant but redeploy them elsewhere?


    After all a day doesn't go by where there isn't a backlog mentioned in the papers at the home office or passport office or dvla or NHS etc etc

  5. 41 minutes ago, top4718 said:

    I think you need to look in the mirror.


    Latest ONS data shows no significant infection risk reduction from the second jab or the booster, you really have been sold a pup.


    I never thought i'd agree with Russel Brand but he stated that no one should profit from an emergency vaccine or one that was mandated and he's 100% right (he could have added one that actually works as well tbh).

    Why are you now looking at ONS data? 


    Surely it's corrupt and influenced by a government wide conspiracy with unspoken forces at work?


    Or is it that the ONS data now shows your viewpoint and is now credible? 


    Actually, don't bother replying because I don't care either way

  6. 55 minutes ago, Chekhov said:

    In what way ?


    Do I have your guarantee on that ?

    If so I'll relax.

    Bearing in mind the consistently massive over reaction from the government between March 2020 and July 2021, and then from Dec 2021 to about Feb 2022,  am not as confident as you are.

    If my guarantee makes you feel any better then sure. 



  7. 6 hours ago, Chekhov said:


    So what does it suggest ?

    It suggests that the government/NHS will advise upon mask wearing.


    No one is going to force it upon everyone like a legal requirement. 


    Honestly, you make things up and wind yourself up over it. At least wait for things to happen before frothing at the mouth

  8. 51 minutes ago, Chekhov said:

    When to wear a face covering:
    when there are a lot of respiratory viruses circulating, such as in winter, and you will be in close contact with other people in crowded and enclosed spaces
    [i.e. you should wear a mask in winter]


    and in the other article :


    Prof Christina Pagel, of University College London, believes mask wearing should be reintroduced in winter.

    Nowhere does that suggest masks will be forced upon people. 

  9. 11 hours ago, Chekhov said:

    Sorry, you are saying forcing people to wear masks, because that is where this could easily go (esp if the virtue signalling Labour party get going on it) is the same as advising them to wash their hands ?

    If people insist on wearing a mask because they think they are saving someone's life and it makes them feel good about themselves, then they can do so, but forcing people is a different thing entirely.

    Actually I think any small beneficial effect of mask wearing will be more than offset by the negative effects on people's mental health and on the economy of constantly reminding everyone their health is at risk from living.

    Point me to the word or sentence in my comment or the article that indicates forcibly wearing masks. 

  10. 11 minutes ago, Chekhov said:


    The fact you think that is balanced fills me with worry......


    Mission creep, we should all fight this :


    The government's advice for what was previously 'living safely with Covid' which has somehow morphed into 'living safely with respiratory infections including Covid-19'


    When to wear a face covering:

    when you are coming into close contact with someone at higher risk of becoming seriously unwell from COVID-19 or other respiratory infections [which could be anyone].
    when COVID-19 rates are high and you will be in close contact with other people, such as in crowded and enclosed spaces
    when there are a lot of respiratory viruses circulating, such as in winter, and you will be in close contact with other people in crowded and enclosed spaces


    Creep, creep, creep - not just for Covid now...

    Just seems like common sense. 


    Should we only wash our hands if at risk of covid?

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  11. 24 minutes ago, Anna B said:

    Every government ends up with some crisis or other to deal with. Last Labour government had the banking crash, another one had a major recession. Each blames the other for the mess they have to clear up. It's all short termism and tit for tat bickering instead of working together for the good of the country.


    That's another reason why I think PR would be a better system. But after centuries of adversarial politics I'm not sure they could bring themselves to work together. Too many big male egos at work.

    Ugh men are all horrible aren't they? 


    Each party has female MP's at work too.


    Don't be a dinosaur and blame all the 'Men' on the countries and various parties own problems.

  12. 3 minutes ago, Anna B said:

    I'm not surprised. This government have borrowed more than anyone for quantatitive easing, covid epidemic and the War in Ukraine. I doubt they'll be the ones paying it back. Is it OK for the Tories to borrow, but bad when it's Labour who do it? 

    Different circumstances for each government.  Don't remember labour borrowing through a pandemic.


    You need to let this obsession with the Tories go. 

  13. 39 minutes ago, FIRETHORN1 said:

    I know a lot of people on here disagree with me, but I still maintain that the vaccines that so many of us have willingly taken  (including myself) have caused as much - if not more - harm than the Covid virus itself. So many previously fit and healthy people have died horrible deaths or become seriously ill shortly after taking the vaxx - especially from bleeds and clots on the brain and from heart problems. The BBC journalist Lisa Shaw, the musician Lord Zion, the psychotherapist Dr Stephen Wright. Their friends and relatives have been suppressed from reporting their deaths by Mainstream Media and even banned from popular social media platforms, like Twitter and Facebook. You may not agree with the view that the vaccine is dangerous but it makes me very suspicious that anyone praising it is allowed to speak freely, yet anyone criticising it - or even questioning it- is banned.

    You've just criticized the vaccine and you haven't been banned

  14. 7 hours ago, sibon said:

    Remember when you did this about the "nine pages" debacle?


    That didn't end terribly well for you when people asked you for proof of your claim.


    So, please forgive my scepticism. Could you possibly point us to evidence for this claim. 


    We know about the figures for kids and omicron, so don't try that one. Give us evidence of "12% efficacy from the vaccine".


    Oh... whilst you are there, tell us what you mean by efficacy. Just in case you got that from some alt right fruitloop site.

    Shocker, he's done his disappearing act again

  15. 59 minutes ago, trastrick said:

    Some think that addressing people as "Ladies and Gentlemen", is showing bias these days. 


    We don't want to offend anybody, do we?  :)


    Absolutely and if anyone has a problem they can message me privately. 

  16. 10 hours ago, Anna B said:

     And in the case of Australia they have to prove they have a substantial sum in the bank, and there's a points system which seems to work well. I don't know how prevalent that is in other countries, but Australia is pretty strict. And they get people arriving in illegal boats too.


    I understand the British system is very slow and cumbersome...


    Our own immigration system is modelled on the Aussie points based system and we have a similar requirement of migrants having sufficient funds in their banks to accommodate themselves.

  17. 3 hours ago, Rockers rule said:

    Don't tell the buggers anything.

    Anything you say will be misconstrued and used against you :mad: .

    Don't do anything to get arrested and you don't need to worry about it

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