Thanks very much for your reply. My granddad Frank was the founder of the company and my father was Vic, his son, who ran it till his death in 1964, when his brother in law Basil Frith took over. I understand from a conversation with Philip Wright, son of Ernest, who Eric Stones now works for, that Eric took over after Basil gave up. I would appreciate his number. If you have any other information I would be grateful - just a few titbits? My brother and I are interested because there may be a plaque put up in the newly renovated Butcher's Works to commerate Frank Turton's. Is the Frank you refer to his nephew maybe? We know so little about the past. Best wishes