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Wow, vile? Bit of a sweeping statement I think? Which makes me wonder why you're even on this forum mixing with those sorts of people? I've never experienced this insular-ness you're talking about. My friends and family certainly aren't like that. Well, I think local working class people and students does sum up a huge chunk of Sheffield, so I would think that the shopping would cater to these people quite a bit. But tell me - why would there be nothing for you in the city centre if you aren't in one these very well defined (by you) categories? Seeing as "local working class people" and "students" are... you know... people... and require the same things as everyone else - clothes, food, household items, furniture etc. Not being snobby are you? Now that doesn't go down well in Sheffield. If that's what you're talking about then that may not be a bad thing. Never good to be snobby. I do agree with you a little on your last point though - I think the council does tend to concentrate their money on the poorer areas of the city. Sometimes this is well justified and is part of what being part of a civilised society is about. However, anyone else noticed they're putting all these new street lights on all the council estates (I know, and main road) before everywhere else? Sheffield has it's bad points, but jeez there are faaaar worse run cities with local populations that are nowhere near as friendly and down to earth as Sheffield. Can't comment about anywhere in Europe - haven't lived there, don't know enough. But you know what they say about the grass being greener. Spain always looks damn nice when I go over there, but I'm pretty sure if I moved all my jobs and stresses over it would look like a very different place in reality from day to day.

Well that's not true. As I've said, there are no issues along these lines in the part of Hillsborough my dad lives in where the permits are coming in. It's far enough away from central Hillsborough that hardly anyone parks there for the tram or shopping. Although it is a terraced street there are plenty of spare parking spaces even in the evening. The only issue is on a match day. As someone else stated, that is just an accepted part of living in Hillsborough. To be honest, struggling to park right outside your house is an accepted part of living anywhere busy like Hillsborough - nothing has changed since most people moved in to their house. If it wasn't an issue when people moved there, it shouldn't be an issue now. Residents are just going to have to start paying for something they can quite easily do already. It is literally just lining the council's pockets. ---------- Post added 13-04-2013 at 01:05 ---------- So some residents' views count more than others? What if all the rest said it wasn't a problem but the council decided to listen to the views of the residents who said they wanted the scheme extended? I really do think the council is completely misjudging the situation in Hillsborough.

It's First in York too, and it isn't much better. If anything it's more expensive. I think the prices of the day and week tickets are about the same, but York is so much smaller! In the case of singles, I could only go about half as far in York for the same money, compared to Sheffield.

Rubbish... nothing is ever like stuff was when you were a kid

Oh dear. I got rather...err... merry one night. Anyway to cut a long story short, spent an hour in tears declaring to my friend how my life was sh*t and then threw up in 2 glasses on the table. Quite tidy for how p*ssed I was I thought First and only time I've thrown up while drunk, oh the shame! Other than that, I've embarassed myself when out so many times I don't remember specific events!

Well students dont just leave, they come back too! I've come home from uni and shall be going out... so it's not completely dead! Plus all those naughty underage school kids will break up and be out and about trying to get served

Don't go nearly as often as I used to, with moving to York but I still love it. I haven't been to another club like it. It's the only club I know where you can sit down and start chatting to someone without a) being thought a weirdo or b) getting sleazed on (if you're a girl chatting to a guy). Everyone is just so relaxed and it's so safe - I've never witnessed a fight there yet! ...Plus the 50p vodkas and good music are a bit of a plus On the issue of skankyness, it just makes corp corp! And I think everyone has had a little trip down the stairs before, I know I've had my fair share! You'd think they'd get rid of the metal bits on the stairs, but hey I guess it's all part of the experience!

Of course! I always sing when I'm walking along when I think no-one is around, only to realise someone's been walking behind me the whole way

I always end up on here instead of doing my work... doesn't matter how urgent it is or how close the deadline is!!! I must be maaaad

Don't remind me

Grrrr, this kind of rubbish really winds me up

Erm... whether global warming exists or whether humans cause it if it does... surely being cleaner and having a nicer environment to live in is still a plus?

May be so... but I doubt that these "yobs" are the 16-18 year olds that attend college and receive discounted travel...

Have been at uni in York now for 2 years. Not really moved away proper but as time goes by am spending less and less time in Sheffield and more and more time here in York. It isn't really anything to do with the place. I love Sheffield and do really miss it, but a lot of my life is here now. I guess it's the people that make a place:)

That sounds well spooky!!!