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Just thought I'd put my four penneth across. I managed and coached a Sunday Junior team for several years and agree with several comments posted here regarding parents watching football. I don't agree with the 'certain areas' comment as it happened EVERYWHERE. I also include my team in this.. more of that in a minute. A huge problem is the amount of parents who come to watch and support their child.. and not the team. Often questioning your tactics and decisions if their precious son isn't involved in every single action of a game. I've even had various dads positioning themselves around the field and shouting out their own tactics. The same parents are rarely available on away games when players need ferrying around South Yorkshire I might add. These, as someone mentioned, are often the parents who goad their lad into 'break his leg' etc.. Tell me again why managers have to have a CRB check and not parents? I used to give up several hours in a week to coach.. several hours on a Sunday collecting lads up.. collecting none existant sub fees.. managing a dozen or so players.. sometimes refereeing.. mid week league meetings.. and then some oik of a mother gives you a flea in your ear for subbing her lad!.. Why anyone would want to run a sunday side these days is beyond me. I ended up like a social worker/home visitor for some lads.. they don't stand a chance in life. When I used to play back in the 70s and 80s it wasn't anywhere near as bad (but did happen if we're all honest).. however the ref was pretty much THE voice of authority. We used to have one bloke who came in the dressing room before games and said 'RIGHT.. any swearing.. you get one chance.. second time I hear it and you're booked.. 3rd time you're off.. HOWEVER.. just one swear word directed at me and you're off'' no arguments.. and he did it. Trouble is, anyone who gives up their time to help kids play footy is under so much scrutiny they daren't say a word. Tell me thats not true. Also, anyone who says it doesnt happen is lieing. Too many lads know their rights but don't know what's right. I would say ban all parents from the touchline but thats not fair on the good uns is it? A lot of problems happen when - for instance - lads from Sheffield play lads from Barnsley.. or Rotherham.. or whatever. A lot of it is spur of the moment stuff but I've been to places where you know it's going to happen.. KNOW it. I gave up in the end.. wasn't worth spoiling a sunday morning for.

I went to Thornbridge, 76 to 80, and Birley middle and junior before that. Brought up on the Newstead estate. Hated school.. but had/have great mates, some I still see/talk to (and knock around with in some cases).. Dave Clayton (year above me - old git), Phil Naylor, Sean Watson, Tony Kay, Andy Bingham, Paul Newman, Mark Fisher, Mark Hayter and the late great Roger Hobson amongst others.. Headmasters.. Snook and then Ernie Wise Goddard Remember Chalky Rawson, Sooty Mullen, Hawkeye Griffiths, Andy Pack, Billy Wizz Evans, Adolf Fiddler etc etc.. Mrs Pratts lacey bras (I was a sticky teenager - what else was I supposed to look at? the blackboard?) I remember the scarey caretaker dude, he had an assistant with a hunched back who was a really nice fella as I remember. He once caught us daring each other to go down the metal stairs in the main courtyard bit, we were trying to see the ghost of the cleaning lady who'd fallen in the boilers. He told us she must have been the size of a cat then. In my minds eye the boilers were like something out of Dante's Inferno with sweaty blackened blokes shovelling coal into raging flames.. not a Baxi Brasilia.. oh well.

Not been on the site for yonks.. interested to see this thread. Brought up on Newstead Way something like 1968 to 1982 (left when I was about 18). It was a great place back then, still see plenty of people from there around. Fondly remember those massive games of footy on the middle field, how you worked your way up the heirachy the older you got. Lots of names I remember from previous posts.. some were/are my mates.. Mark Kempton, Sean and Stevie Watson, Tony Kay, Andy Bingham, .. used to live opposite the Needhams (mentioned above) and was friends with their son Dave up to a point (just drifted apart as we got older I suppose).. Its a sad thing and a good thing they're being knocked down really.. they used to look like Butlins when I was little with all the well kept grass and stuff.. ended up like Beirut for whatever reason.. shame. Remember the old sweet shop.. was it called Farrellys or something? The Butchers with the rabbits hanging in the window and bloodied sawdust on the floor. The Co-Op.. the beer-off at the Frecheville (10p back on a pop bottle), free scraps from the chippy.. jumpers for goalposts (or 'no ball games' signs as someone mentioned haha) etc Remember the meadow grass where the golf course is now, used to ripple in waves when it was windy.. Birley Woods and the tarzan swings.. daring each other to go up to school (Thornbridge) in the pitch black to confront the ghost of the cleaning lady who'd fallen in the boilers.. scrumping crab apples from the orchard where the Fairways is now.. Aaah happy days

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Birley Spa school do a good one.

Not off the top of my head sorry. Emma.. I've said enough about it. I'm uposet coz the lad is a lovely kid. I'm sure the police have it in hand as much as possible.

i can only tell you what I was told. My mates son is in hospital now and thats about the long and short of it. Had it been just 2 on one I think my mate and the other adults there could have handled it. I'll leave it here please. Said enough.

Emma As it's not me involved I can't tell you any more than I've said here. I was ranting mad this morning and maybe saying stuff I shouldn't.

I've entered into a conversation.. You implied that I thought the fact that worse offences were being committed should allow me to break the law. I understand and respect your right to have a difference of opinion. You accused me of something that wasn't the case. I'll say it again. I broke the rules and paid as instructed. Not happily I'll admit, but hey, thats me and money. My opinion is that the police time isn't equally spent. Speeding is bad and they clamp down on it, quite rightly. More police out and about on the beat would see chavs on bikes, ganging up for scraps etc

The scrote being me by the sounds of it.

What are you on about? I committed a crime and paid the price.. I said that. All I want is for a policeman to get to a scene of a crime quicker than forty five minutes. Theres a connection.

I'll consult you next time then eh? So should I be pleased to pay out £60 then? I'll leave it there. Got it off my chest.

I don't think I said that did I? I've admitted I broke the rules and paid accordingly. I also said I'm miffed (to say the least) this morning because I reckon the police are more efficient at tax collecting than stopping crimes. There isn't a connection really. Sorry I upset you.

Just spoke to him.. it's proper intrusive surgery apparently. They have to access the back of his eye. He's in theatre now for an hour or so. They've told him htere's a good chance it'll be successful though so thats small comfort I suppose. At the end of the day rules are rules and i broke them. I just get so hacked off at the injustice of it all. Worst thing of all is seeing my mate. He's adiamond geezer and this has taken all the fun out of him. He's so gutted you wouldn't believe. he could rip any of those low life scum's head off one to one.

You'd expect so wouldn't you? I think my mate said that the chavs had hoods up and scarves arounfd their faces in the main part, and there were hordes of them so unless he's 100% sure he's pretty much screwed. The teacher seemed to know who they were though so lets hope they stand up to be counted.

Apparently the police have names but without positive identification theres 'little that they can do'. My mate and his son have given evidence and the teacher gave names. What will they do? I don't know. Theres a good chance that my good friends son will be blind in one eye come this afternoon.. I'll let you know when i've been to see him. What punishment can they hand out to pay for that? He's a promising footballer/cricketer/all round sportsman but it looks like that'll go out of the window doesn't it? Like I said, I hope the £60 is well spent.. but I doubt it. Maybe an extra CCTV camera on the school? or perhaps theres a profitable stretch of road between Mosborough and Manor Top thats missing a speed trap.. I don't know. Feeling a bit ****** off this morning.

Well yes, exactly.. like I said, I've written a cheque out this morning.

straight up.. 36mph.. I can't believe how bad I was that night.

The problem with walking off is that the idiots are the winners. That way, any game thats not going your way can be stopped by abusing black players. What needs to happen is that the authorities involved, the Spanish FA, UEFA and FIFA need to show backbone. Spain should play their following couple of games behind closed doors for starters. The Spanish players should let their feelings be known. The manager of Spain should be kicked out for his disgusting outburst and refusal to even condemn the racist chants (bet your last pound that Sven would have been).

Just like to get this off my chest.. Today i got a 'Conditional Offer Of Fixed Penalty' green form from the police. I was 'caught' by a speed camera on Birley Moor Road on November 3rd. The offence? 36mph in a 30mph zone. Fair cop. With admirable speed and efficiency (not forgetting Justice and Courage) a pink form landed on my mat a couple of days later outlining my wrong doing and asking for my details, along with a nice letter saying not to bother with excuses. I got the chance to pay £60 for three points this morning that, as a law abiding citizen, I will pay. Last night, roughly 6pm, I was at the petrol station opposite the camera in question. A chav roared past, wheelying, on a trials bike, on and accross Birley Moor Road.. no helmet, no lights, in driving sleet. Today my best mates son (as nice and gentle a kid you could not imagine) has an operation on a detached retina. He, along with the rest of his school team, teacher and parents were attacked after a school team match at Myrtle Springs a couple of weeks ago. A group of around 30 chavs attacked them in the car park. Despite my mates and the teachers best efforts to protect the lads, his son was beaten so badly that he may lose the sight in his right eye. The police arrived FORTY FIVE minutes after being called. I hope the £60 is well spent. Rant over.

I think there are other similar threads but I went there from 1976-1980.

I hated the yellow with pin stripes Owls away shirt a few years back. And that horrible period where Wednesday and United shirts were pin stripes.. what on earth was going on there? Never liked the United shirt with the one thick stripe down the middle circa 78ish? HATED Owls shirt the last year in the Premier (a bit like now) with the solid blue back - STRIPES EVERYTIME!!! Never got on with the horrible Puma king kit with blue shorts and white socks. I wish they'd stick to the traditional combinations. Owls - Blue and White stripes/black shorts/blue socks. United - Red and White stripes/white shorts/white socks?

Hey Nedd, I used to play cricket with Bernard Shaw and he said it was the finest game of football never seen on TV LOL

Sausage, Mash, Peas and gravy. Treacle Tart, bucket of tea.. no contest LOL oh hold on a minute.. what about chips, fried egg, bread and butter and brown sauce.. OR a fry up.. DAMN IT

One of many that sticks in my mind was when Wednesday were in the old third division and we played Everton at home in the League Cup. It was the first time I'd seen 'proper' footballers that I'd seen on Match of the Day LOL Everton were winning 1-0 early doors and I suspected a creaming but then, shock horror joy, Tommy Tynan equalised with a screamer just before half time. I don't think I'd ever been happier at a footy game til that point LOL We went on to lose quite comfortably in the end. 3-1 if I remember rightly. Also I'll never ever forget the run of four replays against Arsenal in the FA Cup.. classic, proper footy entertainment. The 3-3 draw at Filbert Street is quite possibly the most exciting game I've ever seen.