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  1. 1 hour ago, Draggletail said:

    Well done, now that you mention it,  Applebaum's was on the corner of  Mappin Street! Thank you for refreshing my memory! I remember it from early 80s to early 90s ish. I think they might have moved to Chapel Walk after that, but could be a false memory...

    Here is the founder, Jakob David Applebaum. Born in Poland, he came to Britain in the early 1900s with his German-born wife Clara and daughter Rosie. He had a varied career in business; at the time of the 1911 census he was a self-employed “Traveller, pictorial postcards” resident in Liverpool. In 1921, still in Liverpool, he was a “Merchant, hosiery and woven underwear agent, and in the “1939 Register” he appears as a “Wholesale book merchant” living with Clara and Rosie on Kingfield Road, Sheffield.

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  2. 13 hours ago, sadbrewer said:

    I did some genealogy on it Hillsboro, they are almost certainly related but several generations before.. but the spelling had  changed. . . . I think it is almost proven that they were related, but that the actual shared Grandparent is back in the 18th century, possibly not within a 100 years of either Albert or William's birth."

    That's interesting, sadbrewer. Being interested in family history (especially since I learned that my great-grandmother Ann Robinson, née Beresford was descended from Sir Thomas Beresford, who fought at Agincourt in 1415!) I did the same sort of online research 10-15 years ago, with pretty much the same result.  I'm sure that the Pierrepoint and Pierrepont people are distantly related, the difficulty being in establishing a link in this case!

    But the belief in Sheffield that William Pierrepont of Sheffield was related to Albert Pierrepoint the executioner is more recent than any putative family connection, being based on simple confusion of the two surnames. I doubt very much that William the greengrocer would have claimed to be related to Albert the hangman!


  3. On 27/11/2023 at 15:36, Runningman said:

    There was no connection with that family and the family of the executioner

    I'm sure there was a post on here years ago with that information

    Quite right - the spelling is different - the executioner was Albert PierrePOINT and the shop was owned by William PierrePONT (1905-79) and there does not seem to be a connection. Here is a link to one of several old threads on the subject!


  4. Hi Deborah - if you are still in the Forum I've sent you a Private Message, having found some relevant information.  Also, William & Jane's likely children were Jessie, born 1915, Florence, born 1916, Albert & William Jnr., twins born 1917, Beatrice May, born 15 November 1920 but evidently adopted, Nellie, born 1921, Clifford A., born 1924, Ernest, born 1928, John, born 1929 and Reginald J., born 1930.


  5. 1 hour ago, Dreb48 said:

    Im  sure it all changed with the introduction of First and Second Class Post .

    When I was a SubPostmaster it was always cheaper to send a greetings card abroad if it was unsealed 

    Yes, that was the case when there was still a postcard / printed paper / unsealed greetings card rate for overseas mail. I don't know when this changed but for inland mail the postcard etc. rate disappeared with the introduction of First and Second Class post in September 1968. Between 1965 and 1968  the inland letter rate was 4d and the postcard etc. rate 3d. The new rates were First Class 5d and Second Class 4d.


  6. I know the feeling. I have just turned 75, and I recently learned that at least five of my former classmates at Malin Bridge Junior School have died. 🤨 Here we all are in 1959; I am at the far left of the second row back, next to headmaster Frank Courage. Ashley Davis, next to me, died in 2013. Malin-Bridge-Class-4-A-1959.jpg


  7. On 12/03/2023 at 19:53, DavidFrance said:

    I have a feeling that the Carnell family lived near me on Langdon St, Sharrow, in the 50s and were "in business" but I can't recall the nature.   Could this be the same? 

    Looking in a 1957 Kelly's directory,  a Harold Carnell lived at No. 38 Langdon Street. As far as I know he was no relation to the Carnell family who had the coach business.

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  8. On 12/01/2023 at 23:56, jgill506 said:

    Can anyone remember and give details of the Ironmongers, Neville Watts, who I think were at number 8 Fitzwilliam Street, just below the Raven.

    In particular, if anybody can give information on the vans they used it would be great and if any photos were available, that would be awesome.

    In case it's of interest, here is a link to some photos on the "picturesheffield" site (scroll down). https://www.picturesheffield.com/frontend.php?&action=search2&keywords=Ref_No_increment%2CDate_Period%2CImage_Date%2CTitle%2CFurther_Information%2CKeywords%2CPhotographer%2CImage_Copyright%3BMYSQL_MATCHES%3B"neville+watts"%3B#rowNumber5


  9. On 10/01/2023 at 19:39, lazarus said:

    I don’t know if this was the shop you remember, a couple of doors away from the Raven , going towards West Street, was a Butchers called Clayton’s.

     

    On 10/01/2023 at 20:15, Heartshome said:

    Yes, they were at -  No 4.  G Clayton

    There were other butchers, but I think they were to far away - 181 Bernard Walker & 189 J Barlow

    I have Kelly's directories back to the early 1900s, and "G. Clayton, butcher" is listed at No. 4 Fitzwilliam Street from 1971 onwards, but from the 1920s to 1971 No. 4 was "Greenlees & Sons, boot & shoe dealers".

    I cannot find a J. Barlow at No. 189 Fitzwilliam Street, but old directories show a "John Barlow, butcher" at 189 Glossop Road.  From c. 1930 to 1939 No. 181 was indeed "Bernard Walker, butcher", but note that No. 181 was destroyed in the 1940 Blitz.


  10. 5 hours ago, Dreb48 said:

    Well it is indeed hard to believe that we’re on the verge of being  75  …  …  there’s even women amongst them !!

    Yes - female Old Edwardians - is nothing sacred?! 😄  Looking at the 1(3) photo on Don's site  I remembered Irving Smith whom  I knew well at school, and then later when we both worked for HSBC in the 1980s+. I took early retirement in 2002 but still occasionally see Irving as he lives n Wadsley.

    I forgot to mention that Julian Hunt from our year sadly died aged only 54 in 2003. He was at Malin Bridge Junior with me, along with Victor Edy (now in Skipton) and Melville Norton.

    What a long time ago it all was!


  11. 4 hours ago, WarPig said:

    hillsboro. without wanting to drift off the OP's topic, are there any websites you recommend for building a family tree, and also for seeing the different bloodlines, and printing it all off please? I'm doing more and am currently subscribed to MyHeritage but my sub expires soon.

    Hi - I'm not familiar with MyHeritage but apart from subscription sites there are the General Register Office online indexes, also freebmd etc. and the sheffieldindexers site, also the Probate Registry which can be useful for exact dates of death.  In the past I have subscribed to Ancestry and findmypast.co.uk. A few years ago my Ancestry subscription went up  by a factor of 3+, and since then I have used findmypast which I find has just about everything  I need. Like Ancestry it has its own facility for building a family tree, importing photos to the tree etc,, and there are also other family tree software packages available.

    Message me if you need any help with any particular aspect of your tree.

    In fact it's surprising what you can find out about your forebears, Apart from learning that I am descended from the Emperor Charlemagne  (I almost began signing letters "Yours imperially" 😄) I was recently researching my Lincolnshire ancestors using findmypast's access to the British Newspaper Archive. I learned a little about their deeds - and misdeeds. See here for example regarding my great-great-great-grandfather Benjamin Betts, from the 'Lincolnshire Chronicle' of 9 April 1852. https://i.postimg.cc/xjz0zTf8/Benjamin-Betts.jpg I hope they didn't put old Ben in the same cell as Martha Burrell.

     

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  12. 9 minutes ago, Dreb48 said:

    Hi Philip 

    Nice to see that we both are still alive, and ostensibly well enough, to still continue contributing to these pages 

    Are you still in touch with any others from the intake of 59 ?

    I fear a large proportion may now have passed to that great assembly hall in the sky 

    Hi Paul - yes, still alive and kicking! But we can't be 74 . . SEVENTY-FOUR? . . come off it! But in fact I was reminded of Anno Domini in September when the Queen died - I can remember the Coronation.

    I'm still in regular contact with Patrick Burns from our year - he now lives near our Sheffield home in Wadsley. And I occasionally hear from Chris Gilson, who has lived in South Wales since c. 1970. I contacted Alan Chittenden via the Forum a few years ago (and did his family tree - I quite enjoy this sort of research!) Also Don Nicolson via the "Clapton Era" website. This is apart from Ian Minogue who married my sister (in 1978 - I wasn't sure if I should be the best man or a bridesmaid 😄) Of those who have joined N.L.C., A.J., N.J.B., V.A.V., E.L.V. & Co., I don't know of many but Dave Pringle died as long ago as 2003, and David Askham in 2015. John Ramsden died in 2009 (see here https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Ramsden_(historian)) But with any luck we'll still be around for quite a while yet!


  13. Hi salmonbones - as a (very) Old Edwardian  - same year as Dreb48 - I'd like to help, and I first looked at Sheffield births records in the online General Register Office index. This showed that a Ben Colreavy was born in Sheffield in Jan-Mar 1978, and an Owen Colreavy in Jul-Sep 1979, in each case the mother's maiden surname being given as Howes.

    I then looked at electoral rolls. Colreavy is by no means a common surname, and only 30 are listed on the rolls for the whole country (but bear in mind that some people "opt out" of the public part of the roll). Ben Colreavy is not among those listed, but I found an Owen Colreavy at a Manchester address, albeit on the electoral rolls for 2002-2003. Looking for Sheffield Colreavys I found a current one - a Marie Colreavy at an S4 address on the rolls for 2008-2022.

    If you open your Forum ID to Private Messages I can send you the two addresses by this method.

    Good luck in your quest!


  14. 14 hours ago, DavidFrance said:

     

    Search Hope Valley Railway Upgrade. It's educational and informative. And gives you advance notice of closures etc. 

    I just had a look at the Hope Valley upgrade work. Well, a Bamford passing loop might be useful, also a new platform with lifts at Dore & Totley.


  15. On 15/12/2022 at 17:37, DavidFrance said:

    The Brilliant Brit !!  Sadly at Bardney I saw nothing but BR Standards. You probably spent as many hours as I did at the Twentywell Cutting as a lad on a bike..  Have you seen what they're doing there now to undo the evil works of Dr Beeching?  Another case of  "We knew best".  Closing the Chesterfield/Manchester link and making everything go in and then out of the city was plain daft.  But demolishing the island platform was dafter. And Network Rail are spending millions putting in a passing loop at Bamford so that trains will get held up at Picadilly for even longer?   (You will recall I strongly favour 3rd rail electrification for this line and many others serving this region). (We could have driverless trains and call it "levelling up"). 

    Yes, the brilliant Brit itself! I thought all my Christmases had come at once when there it was, gathering speed over the Ouse bridge at Ely. We used to get a daily Brit at Sheffield Victoria on the Harwich-Liverpool boat train, and in 1961 I saw 70017 Arrow at the Midland Station (here is a link to my photo).  https://i.postimg.cc/TPc3V5QG/70017.jpg  But 70000 Britannia was something special, and fortunately it's still going strong.

    I didn't know that the Chesterfield-Manchester link was being closed - how daft.  I remember about 18 or so years ago some north-south expresses using that link due to a diversion, so it was very useful then.

     


  16. 19 hours ago, DavidFrance said:

    . . . I recall being dragged along to Bardney, opposite the sugar factory and spending the most boring day of my life watching the odd train go past and the steam rising from the chimneys.  Somehow it didn't catch on in my genes, Thank God!

    Happy Christmas!!

     

    Happy Christmas returned!

    I can sympathise, as my older brother and I had a much loved great-uncle who took us for a week's holiday every year (otherwise we wouldn't have had a holiday). That's the good news. The bad news was that the aforesaid great-uncle and big brother spent the week fishing. I was duly equipped with a rod, line etc. - but dangling maggots in the water and pulling out the odd tiddler never appealed to me.

    On the other hand the "steam rising from the chimneys" aspect DID appeal to me, as I was a keen train-spotter! On one memorable occasion in 1961 I was pretending to fish for tiddlers in the Great Ouse at Ely when along came this wonderful loco, hauling a Norwich-bound train over a bridge 100 yards from when I was pseudo-fishing. Great!

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  17. 1 hour ago, lazarus said:

    I noticed on the photo of the post office that it’s run by a W. Oldfield , I wonder by any chance he was Willie Oldfield/ William Oldfield.

    The sign would actually have read "A.W. Oldfield" as Arthur WIlliam Oldfield was sub-postmaster from c. 1922 until his death in 1943.

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