mr contrite

Im sorry, but i beg to differ, please name any recent case involving a white person being attacked by non-whites that has had the same level of press coverage as the Stephen Lawrence case, the nearest i can think of is the Kriss Donald murder, yet it is never mentioned now, whereas the Stephen Lawrence murder is being continually brought up time and time again.

No its not bloody right, and every time another story such as this hits the headlines, it results in more of a backlash against immigration, the general public are fed up seeing immigrants getting 170,000 a year in benefits, whilst they themselves struggle to cope with rising fuel, food and other basic items needed to live.

Another discredited myth, who was doing the work before mass immigration, or who still does the work in areas relatively untouched by mass immigration?

If this country was had its own house in order, then we would be in a position to accomodate a limited number of immigrants, and there would be no need for right wing groups as there would be no percieved threat from immigration.

Unless you missed it, i referred to banning immigrants now, and the deportation of those of no benefit to us, never have i said anything about those working and supporting themselves already, my mother contributed throughout her life to the system, yet is unable to claim anything in return, apart from the 25% reduction on council tax because she lives alone, she gets no pension credit due to having contributed to a pension scheme when working, which leaves her a couple of quid a month better off than if she had not bothered saving for her own retirement, and claimed pension credit, yet because of her thrift whilst working she is now denied the help that seems to be given out to families such as those referred to in this thread, one per cent of the amount given to this family would allow my mother, and probably a damn sight more, not to have to worry about how to pay their bills, now please feel free to explain how this can possibly be acceptable, or justifiable.

My view on our own scrounging, lazy, good for nothing benefit recieving scum is no different to my opinion on the benefit scrounging immigrant scum, as would be obvious on other threads relating to benefit cheats, but this thread is about immigrants claiming J170,000 a year for a family of 8. The blame should be placed at the feet of officials who allow it to happen, but these immigrants would not be coming here if it wasnt such an easy touch for them, so yes i aportion blame to the immigrants themselves too. Changing the system AND deporting these undesirables (and i do class them as undesirables for milking the system to the tune of J170,000 a year) would go some way to correcting the problems we have, and will continue to have in the future. When we are in a position to ensure that all our pensioners are secure, warm and fed, when we are in a position to ensure that all criminals are dealt with by means of adequate prison sentencing (not having to release prisoners early to accomodate foreign prisoners), when we are in a position to ensure that all our schoolchildren get better education than they presently get. when we are in a position to ensure that all our own can get decent healthcare, with follow up treatment within a reasonable timescale, or can avail themselves of expensive drugs that can improve their quality of life, when we can ensure that our armed forces are given the correct equiptment for the job in hand, regardless of cost, when we can supply adequate accomodation to our own people, then, and only then, should we consider allowing immigrants into this country, and only if they can prove that they can support themselves. Get our own house in order before we start treating foreigners better than our own people.

But surely crayfish is assuming that more immigrants work than claim benefits, yet he fails to back up his assumptions, it has to work both ways.

That argument has been discredited simply by saying dont immigrants get old? who pays for them then? or perhaps a vicious circle of increasing immigration to pay for older immigrants? think about it, its fairly obvious.

Thanks Depoix. Where have i said anything about making pensioners rich? unless of course you believe that being able to afford Heat and Food is an indication of wealth?

I think the fact that this is an isolated case shows how good a job our police do on the whole, and personally i am sick of hearing about the case, now if he had left the country when he was supposed to then this situation would never have happened, i am equally as sick of hearing about the Stephen Lawrence case, or the one in London (cant remember the name) where the lad was stabbed and left for dead in the stairwell, in all these cases somebody other than those involved in the killing is deemed to be responsible, be it "institutional racism", social services, or any other number of allegedly guilty third parties, funny how these high profile cases always involve immigrants.

I quite deliberately mentioned bloody immigrants, this is a case of immigrant scroungers bleeding the country dry, now dont bother denying it, as it states that one of her numerous offspring is a student who spends his time driving round, or playing pool. Whilst there is one OAP in this country worrying about how to pay their bills, or one family threatened with eviction because of the spiralling cost of living, or one child of British origin living in poverty, we should be banning all immigration and kicking out people like this who quite clearly are screwing the state for everything they can, i have spent a considerable amount of time trying to reduce my elderly mums outgoings to allow her to live as comfortable a life as possible, even to the extent of her getting rid of her landline phone, simply to allow her to try and retain some dignity in her later years. If this, in some eyes, means i am racist for questioning the policy of mass immigration, then yes I AM A RACIST, AND BLOODY PROUD OF IT.

It seems they are still not happy. Jawad, a student who admits he spends most of his time driving around in cars and playing snooker, said: 'We are very lucky to live here, maybe the council made a mistake. It is a lot of money to pay and the landlord is the one who is really lucky. He must be getting rich.' He added: 'The property had been refurbished before we arrived, but there were certain aspects that I was not happy with so I phone up the council and it sent people to fix the drive and clean up the garden.' He added: 'We do like living here. But my mum has said she is not happy because the house is so big and she doesn't like cleaning. It is much smaller than our house in Afghanistan. 'Some of the rooms in England we would not even put our chickens in because they are so small.'

Personally i hope McCain wins, as i would prefer a strong leader not scared to use force if needed, over somebody who would be as much use as the UN in a time of crisis.

Read your post on the other thread, and feel that this deserves a thread of its own, as many posters probably wouldnt look too much into a thread regarding the B of E base rate.

Didnt notice, ooops

Reminds me of an old joke about Llandudno or Ludo:hihi:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1072729/Its-like-winning-lottery-Jobless-Afghan-mother-seven-gets-170-000-benefits-lives-1-2million-council-house.html An Afghan family living in a £1.2million home paid for by the taxpayer admitted yesterday they felt as if they had won the lottery. Mother-of-seven Toorpakai Saiedi, 35, receives £170,000 a year in benefits. A staggering £150,000 of that is paid to a private landlord for the rent of a seven-bedroom house in West London. Another case of bloody immigrants being looked after in comparative luxury, whilst 100s of 1000s of pensioners worry about heating or eating, and millions of families can look forward to job insecurity, mortgage payments, and worrying about how to pay for christmas, its time to stop this blatant misuse of public money, and send these scroungers back.

There are a couple of crossings on park lane, one being approx 100 yards past the underpass near Oxford street, with the memorial to animals killed in the wars (i believe) in the middle, next to the car showroom with the Hummers for sale, if memory serves me correctly, the underpass seems fairly safe and apart from the odd dosser and occasional busker, the only other thing to look out for is the fact that the male toilets down there appear to be cleaned by females, so it is possible to be surprised somewhat.

Couldnt find a link, it was something i read in one of the sunday papers, sorry.

Catching on quick, you are even thinking now.

Hadnt thought of that, now that puts a different perspective on things, 750,000 murders a year could now be acceptable, on one condition, they have to be committed by immigrants, and the victims should also be immigrants, but hang on........slight problem, the prison population, lets release lots of prisoners early to cope with the rising prison population....Dammit, thats already been tried, oh well back to the drawing board.

And did not a report state that Britain is likely to be hit the hardest by the present recession? Stand by for civil disturbances on the scale we have never seen before in this country, rising unemployment, rising repossesions, rising bankruptcies, power outages, lets hope that those still lucky enough to still be working in a few years time will be happy to bear the burden of higher taxation to pay for it all.

Why just women? millions of men look after and provide for their children, myself included, i work in excess of 55 hours a week, my wife works 39 hours a week, neither of us class ourselves as superman or woman, just ordinary people who made a choice to have 3 children, and more importantly, provide for them ourselves, and yes we do get annoyed at young mums who do make having children a career, expecting my taxes to provide for them, whilst constantly whinging at any critisism levelled at them, perhaps if they were to get off their backsides, or backs, and give something back to the society that supplies them with their housing, heating, lighting, food, council tax, fags and booze, they may not be so openly abused, but until that happens i reserve the right to critisise those for whom popping out kids is seen as a meal ticket to an easy life, now dont try to say that it doesnt happen, or is a small minority, i can speak from the experience of living next door to a housing association property that has housed 3 families in the last 5 years, that consisted of 6 adults, 7 children, 2 more on the way, and not a job between the adults, even though the oldest male was only 25, and included an electrician, a hairdresser and one male of 23 who started 3 jobs in 18 months, and never lasted more than a week at any of the jobs, being sacked from 2 and walking out of the 3rd, then complaining that his benefits had been stopped because he had walked out, rather than get sacked ( he even had the cheek to go and complain shouting that "how am i supposed to support my family" to which my wife retorted, on being told, " you are not supporting your family, we are" Its about time the govt cracked down on these scroungers, and perhaps started taking the children away from these "baby factories" and allowing decent, hardworking couples who by some misfortune might not be able to have children themselves, to have these babies.

But i seem to remember reading somewhere that one in five murders in England and Wales was committed by an immigrant, so surely without mass immigration we would have been praising a further 20% drop in the number of murders committed here?

Now lets put that into perspective, 7/7. And while we are at it, would you care to see a list of Tory, Labour or LibDem MPs, candidates, activists or supporters who have fallen foul of the law?