Thanks Mandarin, my hubby already suggested I do that but I know she'd just say well if you don't have time to do it then give it to ...... to do, before now it's been said, I don't care which one of you does it as long as it's done, and guess who's done it? This is a new management role they haven't been on any training yet but I still think of bit of courtesy wouldn't go amiss. I feel totally undervalued.