Justin Smith

Surely you`re not suggesting that any vehicle is more efficient as it goes faster. That`s impossible, as has been pointed out the drag goes up for a start, is it by the square of the speed, I`m not sure. I know the amount of kinetic energy * in a moving body goes up by the square of the speed. * As in how much damage it`s going to do to anything it hits.......

Why should anyone be unhappy with a system designed to stop people breaking the law ? And, whilst we`re at it, preventing them accidentally getting speeding tickets ? What you`re saying ,makes no sense at all.

Calling me a Wazzock ? Isn`t that being personal ? When I referred to Wazzocks I was referring to a certain group of drivers, that isn`t being personal. As to your point, I was referring to the maximum speed any vehicle is allowed to go, as you well know I was. TBH I think this is classic behaviour of "Petrolhead" type drivers, they`re desperate to stop anything that might prevent them speeding, even attacking those who are in favour of it, which, I`d warrant, would be the vast majority of drivers.

I think you`re missing my point. Basically Leave said we could have a "Cake and Eat it Brexit", no economic damage (can I remind you, that was "Project Fear"), and we`d have shed loads of extra money, so much in fact that we`d give the NHS an extra £350 million a week. And, lastly, just in case that wasn`t sufficiently persuasive, be warned ! Turkey IS joining the EU (remember that as well, see below....). But, of course, none of that is happening, and therefore Leave`s mandate, which was only won on a 52/48 vote anyway, is severely weakened, or trashed altogether.

"enacting what`s been asked of them" It`s impossible to enact what`s asked of them, because Brexit, as advertised by Leave, does not exist.

TBH I don`t give a toss as to their motivations are (though I do actually think it`s safety and reducing pollution), I still think it`s a FANTASTIC idea. What I find interesting is the sight of Petrolheads dancing on a pin. On the one hand they profess their hatred for speed cameras "revenue raising devices" they say, but they also object to something which would mean the elimination of speed cameras. There`s actually only one theory which links the two, basically they just want to speed, and they don`t like anything which will stop them.

Sorry, I thought that was the law. I suppose it depends on your definition of the words "restricted to". Maybe that`s the excuse of all those drivers who habitually exceed the speed limits ? It`s not that they`re arrogant Wazzocks, they`re just ignorant in the other sense of the word, as in they don't know......

"common sense says we should be increasing speed limits". I would bet good money you`re in a minority on that one. And it`s not a daft idea, it`s a FANTASTIC idea I`ve been arguing for this for years.. I can`t wait for it to be introduced, as I`m sure it WILL not only reduce dangerous accidents but make the roads less aggressive too. I`m sure I`m not the only one to have noticed that when on a motorway with an average speed camera enforced speed limit the whole driving experience becomes much less aggressive, no cutting up, no tail gating, few Wazzocks weaving in and out of the lanes to gain 10 yards etc etc

I find it extremely annoying when I hear Brexiteers coming out with that one, similarly the pontification that "80% of voters at the last GE voted for parties committed to leaving the EU". The fact is me and almost all my extended family voted Labour, despite the fact none of us want to leave the EU. We couldn`t vote LibDem because that`d have just let the Tories in, though for me it was easy to vote for Angela Smith because she was one of the few MPs who had the balls (not literally) to vote against invoking Article 50.

I`d like to see those indicative votes carried out completely without any whimps. By which I mean MPs ignoring the fact : 1 - There`s no longer a majority for Brexit in this country and 2 - Since almost everything Leave promised / predicted / pledged has failed to come about, their mandate is trashed.

There may be a way round it, but, if a driver was speeding it`d be obvious he`d disconnected it because he`d be, well, speeding. All you have to do is introduce stiff penalties for anyone doing disconnecting said limiter. Well I don`t agree with you at all, but, we`ll see won`t we ? BTW, all vehicles are restricted to 70mph on the motorway......

Great news this morning (BBC News site) : Speed limiting technology looks set to become mandatory for all vehicles sold in Europe from 2022, after new rules were provisionally agreed by the EU. Not only will this make the roads safer but it`ll reduce aggression significantly, after all, what`s the point in hammering it to cut someone up, or tail gating them, or dangerously overtaking them, if the aggressive wazzock can`t exceed the speed limit anyway ? Even those who hate speed cameras should be happy as they`ll now not have to worry about being fined. All those drivers bleating about cameras being "money making" will no longer have to worry. What`s not to like ?

It may be a positive for you, but not, almost certainly, for the majority of people in this country. The fact is, particularly bearing in mind the age profile of Leave voters and Remain voters (unfortunately for Brexiteers the Grim Reaper has been at work since June 2016), there is no majority for Leave anymore. And, in fact, if you start quoting Respect For Democracy, bear in mind we would be leaving the EU on the backs of voters who aren`t even here now, and many of those most affected by it, the young, weren`t even allowed to vote then. Funny kind of democracy. .

We've started swimming at Stocksbridge pool * now, and they quote 28 degrees. I have to say that makes no sense to me, I`d say it`s about the same as Concorde which is stated as being 29.5 ! Whatever the actual temperature it`s cool enough for reasonably hard lane swimming * Stocksbridge far better for lanes than Hillsborough, and there`s always parking which is also free, unlike at Ponds Forge (undoubtedly the best lanes pool), the latter also often shut for competitions quite often, esp at weekends. Stocksbridge is also much cheaper than SIV membership, unlimited use of the pool for a family (two adults and up to three kids) for only £385 a year

I agree many people speed on Penistone Rd, but increasing the speed limit is a bad idea for a few reasons. The most obvious question is which section would be increased ? Most reasonable people (excluding Petrolheads, obviously) would say the section around Albert Rd should remain at 30mph, it`s busy and that junction is dangerous, hasn`t there been at least one death there ? Loads of people coming out of Albert Rd run that light, in fact my view is that set of lights needs a camera on it to prosecute he miscreants. Similarly the junction round Hillfoot bridge is very busy and on red much of the time. The section from Bamforth St on is even busier with loads of side roads and people crossing, similarly the junction with Bradfield Rd is appalling for Red Light Runners. Thus we`d be left with a relatively short section from Hillfoot Bridge to Bamforth St, and it seems a bit pointless really, it would just increase the chances of people accidentally speeding when the limit dropped back to 30. As a general rule I don`t like to see roads with the speed limit changing up and down often, it`s just confusing and increases the chances of accidentally speeding.

And plenty of time to close the lane...… I`ve seen loads of beached cars on "smart" motorways, including one just today, with the lane still open. Or was the lane closed ? If it was that`s even worse, that proves that the whole concept of a motorway with (what was) the hard shoulder open as a normal ruinning lane as default, is a bad idea.

There was a motorcyclist killed on Langsett Rd Oughtibridge (going out towards Wharncliffe Side) this morning. Accidents have been occurring there regularly including this one in June 2016 reported to the Council last year : And this thread on SF in 2013. Local residents regularly write to the council to warn them, I also did after the accident quoted above. I was informed there aren`t enough serious accidents on that road, but what constitutes a serious accident ? For instance, the smash involving the Audi may not have been counted as a serious accident because, by pure fluke, nobody was seriously injured. Apparently, according to SC, "changing the speed limit signs costs too much money". Are they serious ? One assumes, now there`s been the "required road death" they`ll do something. At an absolute minimum the 30mph speed limit should be extended round the S bends and then the limit only increased to 40 to join up with the 40 limit through Wharncliffe side. If it still doesn`t slow drivers down, put speed camers in there every few weeks. Question, does anyone, even the most ardent petrolhead, disagree with that ?

It`s absolutely ridiculous. Not everyone has, nor even wants, a SatNav, I don`t want a SatNav and neither does my wife. Fortunately we`ve passed our tests so it doesn`t affect us, but the point is still relevant. One does not have to use a SatNav to drive so to force them to be part of the driving test is appalling. Technology is just going too far, where will it all end up ? Being forced to have a smart phone even if you don`t want one ? I certainly don`t want one. Which cretin in the DofT came up with this idea ? Was it the same one who thinks`s it`s a good idea to get rid of the hard shoulders on motorways ? That`s the question. Sack him (or her).

I don`t normally approve of people trying to milk unfortunate events for loads of money, but in this case I hope he gets millions, and I think he will.

Oh I get you. I wasn`t sure because some people going to the Caribbean for the first time wonder if the locals have forgotten Empire and (more particularly) slavery. On the subject of which, holidays being educational, where is there a better place in the world to learn about slavery than the Caribbean ? Looking round an old slave dwelling etc ?

What gives you the idea the English are disrespected in the Caribbean ? There was certainly no sign whatsoever of that in Barbados. A friendlier country it would be hard to find, and I`ve been to a few. I would say Taiwan would come second.

Jet2 aren`t bad, you get a crucial extra couple of inches leg room and the seats are fixed back so the passenger in front can`t recline into your face.

Originally Posted by Cyclone View Post And a four year old doesn't appreciate the experience of that country and would be perfectly happy on the beach in Scarborough. Rubbish. My lad absolutely loved swimming in the sea teeming with fish, and with the turtles even more. And he will defn remember it, though I accept that may be partly down to the constant reminders he`ll get from the videos (I filmed it on my underwater camera) and pictures already on our walls. He would like playing on the beach in Scarborough, but not in Jan/Feb when we were in Barbados. And at that time of year the water would too cold to even paddle in much less swim in, in fact it was too cold to paddle in in late April when we went the other year.

I`m assuming he`ll be more amenable to swimming in cooler water as he gets older. He`ll have to if he`s to swim in the sea because I can`t see us going to Barbados again anytime soon. Don`t get me wrong, he loved t over there all the fish in the sea and stuff, it`s fabulous, but it`s expensive, and certainly not worth going to for only one week in the February half term......

I think we`re missing the point here somewhat. Nobody goes to Barbados, or even Spain, to learn to swim. It`s for the experience of that country, and what it has to offer. There are no turtles to swim with anywhere near Sheffield......