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I disagree, whether you use it or not it's installed on your hard drive taking up space, further it gets regular updates from Microsoft taking both your time & bandwidth to do so. Which was another reason I reverted, I schedule my updates for times that are convenient to me I don't want to turn the machine on and wait half an hour while it updates, then be told not to turn the machine off as it shuts down and configures them for another half hour when I need to get on and do things. I realise a lot of people would never update their machine unless they were forced to but I resent having the choice taken from me, and I know the enterprise & pro versions do allow you to schedule updates, this is only on home versions. Again this is my machine I paid for it, it does what I want, when I want or it goes back to the shop for a refund. Wireshark is your friend, I periodically check what my Win7 installation sends up the wire Plus there are security experts on line who check every update, that's how I found out about win10 sending encrypted data back and them trying to roll the same out to Win7 & 8 And as for activation Win7 was activated once, which is all it needed, however now Microsoft seem to want to check this every 90 days or so with KB971033, I can't think of any reason why they need to check the licenses on an activated system more than once but this schedules a regular check & I'll put money on Win10 having the same thing

I've reverted from windows 10 for a couple of reasons One reason is the bloatware, it can be removed fairly easily if you know what to do, but I shouldn't have to remove it at all, it shouldn't be there certainly not Cortana & xBox, these could be optional downloads if people want them, they aren't necessary for the upgrade though and for a novice they are difficult to shift. Another reason is the killswitch, I know it's only supposed to work on rogue software installed from the windows store, but that begs the question of why wasn't the software verified when it was added to the store rather than after it was installed on a users machine wasting their time, bandwidth and disk space. Further this is my machine, it is a tool, it does what I want, when I want, as often as I want & I will not tolerate someone in Redmond having the ability to disable software on my machine. And another reason is the sheer volume of data that Win10 sends back to Microsoft. Now even if you get rid of the bloatware & turn all the privacy options on Win10 still sends encrypted information along with your machine ID & several other bits of information that can identify you back to Microsoft, further it bypasses the hosts file so you can't dump this information somewhere harmless without altering settings on your router, again not something the novice knows how to do. And Microsoft are trying to roll out this data slurp to Windows 7 & 8 as well, if you have automatic updates turned on you probably already have these installed. See http://www.theregister.co.uk/2015/09/01/microsoft_backports_data_slurp_to_windows_78_via_patches/ for more information Now it's very generous of Microsoft to give us a free operating system and when I installed it it did work very well, once I got rid of bloatware. And I realise they need to recoup their investment somehow, but they need to recognise that this machine is mine, I use it to make a living, I'd rather pay for an operating system that I can trust not to have bloatware, report what I'm doing offsite and give some remote person the ability to kill software on my machine than use their free offering. So I think this will be my last version of Windows, unless there is a major shift in attitude at Redmond, and I'll be migrating to some flavour of Unix instead

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OOO thanks for this, that'll save some time

Did a clean installation post upgrade by resetting the machine, I have a backup of win7 if I need it. but by the look of it I probably won't be going back on this laptop Without the Asus bloatware the machine runs faster than it did under win7 and appears to still have most of it's features, some of the function buttons no longer work like for disabling the trackpad when a mouse is pluged in but the driver has a setting to do that automatically, similarly brightness buttons don't work but that's easily controlled on screen. So on the whole win10 for the win and asus can go do one with their add ons. Still has a problem with silverlight but that seems to be a general problem with silverlight and anything after IE10 where it's not producing sound. I prefer firefox anyway and silverlight runs in that quite happily. Noticed a few things I really don't want like xbox are still there I managed to get rid of xbox with this advice http://www.teoti.com/useful/136127-how-to-remove-xbox-from-windows-10.html

I've upgraded a laptop from win7 home to win10. First impressions are that it looks OK, it wasn't a blisteringly powerful machine in the first place and the upgrade doesn't seem to have slowed it down noticably. I'm a little concerned about all the information Microsoft want sent back to them in order to use features like Cortana which tbh I'm not really interested in, so I've turned them all off. One thing I noticed was that Silverlight doesn't work with Edge, so anyone watching Amazon Prime instant video will need a workaround. Some features I'm really not interested in like xbox & the news feed & would like to remove them but can't find a way of doing it so any pointers would be appreciated. But on the whole the upgrade was reasonably painless, the result looks OK, the PC isn't running like a drugged slug & things seem reasonably easy to find, so thumbs up from me.

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