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  1. There is Sheffield Symphony Orchestra, Sheffield Chamber Orchestra and Sheffield Philharmonic Orchestra, all have websites.
  2. And we're off again.... Another pay offer is on the table. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/education/5032724.stm I can already hear the cries: "derisory", "meagre", "paltry", "years of underfunding", "we'll all leave and get better paid jobs" etc. I agree, maybe those lecturers who are scientists could leave and get better paid for doing research and development (if they could get in to this highly competitive field). But surely no-one believes that there are many highly-paid R&D opportunities for many of the non-scientific disciplines? How much could a Media Studies/Music/English Literature lecturer really earn in the private sector? And are there enough of these jobs to support the vast swathes of lecturers "considering leaving the profession"? I think not. Why should a lecturer, who is already earning more (with better benefits, pension, holiday entitlement, job security) than they would with their skills in the private sector, get a 23% pay rise? It doesn't make any sense.
  3. Here's the sticking point for me. If you work in the commercial sector, pay rises are a priviledge, not a right. They are something that you hope for, but if the company does not perform well (or even if they do but decide to reward their shareholders instead), pay rises can be few and far between. You certainly do not get a pay rise linked to either inflation, the CPI or the RPI, you get a pay rise based on how you have performed over the last year. Is it right that all lecturers (even those who are not performing their job well) should get this blanket pay rise? I think it's fair to say that we would all like a job with pay that tracked rising costs in all other areas but it doesn't work that way. This looks very much like it'll end like the firefighters dispute, without the outcome that they pressed so hard for, and with negative public feeling for both the union and its members.
  4. It was people having different opinions. Sometimes incorrect and uninformed opinions but opinions nevertheless. I was just disappointed that people throw in the word "ignorant" at the first hurdle in an attempt to belittle other folk rather than trying to educate them. It doesn't paint a positive picture of the people trying to argue the lecturers' corner when they just respond by telling those less well-versed in the subject than them that they are ignorant. Your posts amongst others have sought to rectify some misconceptions about the life of a lecturer with meaningful input and I'm grateful for your participation.
  5. Thanks for everyone's input on this. Good debate and guage of opinion. If Lecturers expected unwavering support for their actions, this has proved otherwise. But it has also shown that their actions do have support from more folk than I expected. A bit unfortunate that it descended into: but this tends to happen in debates when someone can not abide people having an opinion different to theirs. Thanks to the rest of you who managed to respond informatively and constructively without resorting to name-calling. The poll closes on the 6th May so any of you who want to bolster the graph one way or the other, get your friends to log-on, read the opinions and register their vote.
  6. Lecturing is surely a vocation chosen by a those with a desire to teach and research. Most lecturers I know greatly enjoy their jobs as they are essentially doing what they love and getting paid for it. Some of them are as disgusted as I am at this current action. There are plenty of better paid jobs out there and there always have been. If you're not getting paid enough in any job, you surely find a job that pays the money that you think that you're worth. This isn't the case for lecturers: They won't leave because they enjoy their jobs, but want to get paid more for it. They've been guaranteed an above inflation rise for the next 2 years, most private sector workers would be thrilled with this. We sneer and joke every time the French go on strike. Why should the lecturers expect anything but public disapproval when they resort to the same, dated way of trying to resolve things.
  7. It's high time that the University Lecturers just got on with their jobs rather than their current petty refusals to set exams and mark work. Universities are businesses that no longer thrive on endless government handouts. Lecturers have been offered a 3% rise this year and 3% next year. Not many other private sector workers can claim that they've been offered something comparable. Should this money not be spent on improving facilities for students or reducing the extortionate fees they now have to pay?
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