VARB

 

But this is the BNP mega-thread (Part 6), and on this thread we discuss the BNP's policies and all matters related to the BNP. I will not be deflected by

 

Is the serious split in the Sheffield BNP branch, where up to half a dozen former members are now reported to have left, or to be leaving the party, going to hamper the BNP from fielding candidates in elections? Can someone remind me - did the BNP stand a candidate in every Sheffield seat at the last general election? It's not just the fact that the BNP lost all their deposits - which proved very expensive for them, but is there anyone left now in the Sheffield BNP branch who could even do anything at an election?

 

Indeed, is there a Sheffield BNP branch at all? There doesn't appear to have been a press release issued by the Sheffield BNP on this matter. Maybe the Sheffield BNP branch was just royjames and a handful of others after all. Let's face it, royjames himself has stated on this thread that the BNP are going to be seriously hampered in even delivering leaflets. So, how many members are left in Sheffield? Less than 10? Less than 5?

Alot of wishfull thinking Robbo

I really don't know why VARB continually wants me to debate his views on the Labour Party on the BNP thread?

 

Can VARB please try and stop going off-topic and stick to the subject under discussion, which is the BNP.

 

So, back on topic.....

 

The revelations in The Guardian, that Civil Liberty appears to be a front organisation for the BNP to obtain funds from the USA, is to be investigated by the Electoral Commission. It was a scandal that the BNP once solicited funds from Colonel Gaddafy of Libya, and it is now against the law for any political party to receive funds from overseas. It reassuring that the Electoral Commission is now going to investigate whether the BNP are trying to circumnavigate around the law, or have actually broken the law.

It's not my views on the Labour party being discussed but it's only fair in my opinion that when you attack the BNP it's pointed out that your doing in from a position in a party of liars and kiddy killers .

Please prove the BNP have ever solicited money from Colonel Gaddafi , you cant because it never happened .

The electoral commision is welcome to look into this theres nothing to hide with Civil Libertys . If the BNP wanted to " circumnavigate around the law " it could quit easily get donations from overseas sent to our branches in Ulster because your bend mate phoney Toney left a loop hole in the law so that the six countys are not coverd by the funding clauses in the electoral bill , he probably didn't want to upset his terrorist mates in Sinn Féin who get some very big donations from the USA .

Fuel man's BNP stand

http://icnewcastle.icnetwork.co.uk/sundaysun/news/tm_headline=fuel-man%2Ds-bnp-stand%26method=full%26objectid=18573195%26siteid=50081-name_page.html

Members of the British National party have set up a front organisation in an attempt to raise money from far right sympathisers in the United States.

 

An investigation by the Guardian has revealed that the fundraising group Civil Liberty, which claims to be independent of any political party,

 

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These 'journalists' are getting payed for nothing have a look at CLs web site http://www.civilliberty.org.uk/ that some of those running it are also in the BNP is no big secret Kevin Scott even puts his ugly mug on the main page on the 'our work' page the cases of Arthur Redfearn and Tina Wingfield two BNP members who have been persecuted for holding political beliefs New Labour dont like are highlighted .

I've not seen a post by royjames to this effect. However, it's interesting to note that royjames declined my challenge to go head to head with me in my council ward, as he said he was committed to fighting in the Southey ward. However, at the last council elections, royjames was moved (or pushed?) aside in that seat, and contested Beighton ward - which is on the other side of the city from where he lives. No explanation was ever given for this sudden move, even though the BNP only contested a few seats - so why did royjames lose out and had to contest another seat?

 

Is royjames now showing that he is not prepared to be pushed around, and hence his announcement that he is not renewing his BNP membership? Is royjames joining the NNP? What do the BNP have to say if their former "senior BNP member" is indeed joining the NNP? Aren't splits in the extreme right-wing inevitable anyway?

Robbo the internal decisions of Sheffield BNP have has much to do with you as labours have to me so dont hold your breath waiting for a reply to questions about them .

Roy has already stated his reasons for not renewing his membership are private so I will respect that and hope others do , as to if he joins another party that also his his decision but Sheffield BNP wish him well whatever he decides and thank him for his efforts in the past for the BNP , we do live in a sort of democracy despite New Labours best efforts so Roys free to choose what party to support.

The doors not closed Roy if you change your mind .

One member thinking over his future is hardly a split

I dont like out of date terms like "extreme right-wing" but if you want to use labels groups on the 'right' are no more prone to splits than those on the 'left' If New-Labour had more members prepared to put principle before personal profit and risk those cushy jobs for the boys by speaking out I'm sure your party would make any splits on the 'right' look like a family tiff .

I'd be ashamed to be a member of a party as corrupt as New labour who's leaders are war criminals by any definition , you should have the courage to speak out against these things not worry about what other partys are doing , get your own house in order .

Waste Watch- The Police

Irving and the other holocaust deniers should not go to prison they should be allowed to debate their vile opinions with real historians then face public ridicule when shown to be liars and frauds , locking up these morons gives them the oxegeon of publicity as this case shows without destroying this growing myth .

 

How about an alternative where we marry everyone off at age 20 whether they like it or not, with no divorce option for say 25 years.

 

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Are you related to my father inlaw Tony

I'm experiencing a spot of deja vous

The legal aid he should be given is a length of rope and a trap door.

What purpose is served in prolonging his, and our, agony?

I agree let him hang now .

We should pray for these poor girls and hope the maniac responsible is caught before he can strike again .

I believe unions have an important part to play in defending workers rights and making sure health and safety legislation is adhered to but I dont think this is top of the agenda with some unions at the moment .

When I started my present job the union rep approached me about joining I agreed but said I wanted to opt out of the political levy as I did not want to fund the Labour party he looked shocked and when I told him I was a BNP voter he just walked away saying that I was not welcome in his union .

Does that outnumber the thousands he murdered? I find it hard to believe he saved that many lives...

If it saved one British sevice mans life it would be more than our so called European allies .

What exactly was this help that Thatcher likes to go on about? The only event I am aware of is that they allowed a helicopter to refuel (and later be dumped) on their territory. Is there something else?

As you know Ken the helicopter incident was a special forces op and I think it's safe to say it probably wasn't a one of , other help will have been mainly in the intel field so is hardly going to be the stuff of public debate , one goverment would not have so publicly thanked another if the assistance given was not significant .

Good to have the BNP viewpoint supporting dictatorships..............again.

Nothing to do with anything political, a man who was a friend to Britain during the Falklands conflict has died the logistical and other help given by Pinochet shortend the war and saved lifes .

R.I.P. Augusto Pinochet

Dont spend to much on this car remember the insurance firms only pay out once on a car , even if you spend £1000 repairing the car and it looks and runs perfect in the event of an accident or if it's stolen you would only get paid out the scrap value . These cars are ok if you can do the repair work yourself and know the pitfalls .

Nobody ever tell you ' Possession is nine-tenth of the law '

'The Police' should be abolished.

 

The 'police function' should be performed by a form of national service by all adults 'of good standing' between, say, 20yrs and 50 yrs. e.g. : 3Mnths every 3 yrs or similar.(vary according to desired number of police.)

If national service is good enough for waging 'world wars', and policing the soldiers doing that, why not for civil policing?

 

The present state of manifest uselessness is satisfactory to no-one but our political masters, why continue with it?

Not a bad idea but like when national service was in operation a core of profesionals would be needed for training and specialist work .

I also believe if we had an elected ( non political ) chief constable in each area instead of a goverment appointee we might start to get the police force the people want .

Anonymous v The Chief Constable of South Yorkshire, High Court, April 2006

Very substantial damages and apology were agreed in the Sheffield High Court in respect of the assault, false imprisonment and malicious prosecution of the claimant arising from an unlawful and racially motivated stop and search. The case raised novel and complex issues of causation in respect of the psychiatric illness developed by the claimant after these events and the level of damages achieved together with the apology, reflected acceptance on the part of the Chief Constable that his officers’ actions had caused the claimant severe mental health problems.

Nobody was sacked in relation to the above case

I do feel sorry for the honest copper in the South Yorkshire police , just imagine if every day you had to deal with....

Thugs

People who would pervert the course of justice at any given chance

Morons

Total inadequates

Deviants

And thats just in the staff canteen if I ever bump into that honest copper I will buy him a drink .

Bryn Sidaway, the former Labour council leader in Sunderland, is, in my opnion, making an ass of himself.

 

All councillors in the country receive an allowance (nb. it is not a wage). The allowance is to reimburse councillors for their time and expenses in carrying out their duties.

 

All Labour councillors are members of the Association of Labour Councillors (ASL for short). As such, we are able, for example, to participate in ASL conferences and in mentoring schemes with councillors from other local authorities. As members of the ASL we receive advisory information and various development papers (on transport, the environment, etc.), and have access to legal advice, insurance and support. All of this assistance is provided to Labour councillors by the Labour Party. (NB. Similar arrangements will operate for members of other political parties by their national organisations).

 

I happen to pay my subscriptions to the ASL via deductions from my council allowance, as it is convenient for me to do so. I happen to pay my council tax by direct deduction from my council allowance - but I don't detect this disgruntled former Labour councillor in Sunderland claiming that my council allowance is subsidising my council tax. This is a non-issue.

I hate agreeing with you Robbo but your right

Nowhere does it say councillors are getting any more money to pay these dues it's not costing us any more so what difference does it make if they choose to make this payment from their allowance .

As deputy PM. God help us all. She can't even make up her mind what shes believes in, let alone whats best for the country. "I'm against grant maintained schools unless its the one my son goes to"

New labour at it's best

What truth is that? That a teenager should be prosceuted for a banal comment;

I dont think she should be prosecuted her parents need to give her a good talking to but I do wonder if the op was from an asian complaining about a white teen being abusive you would call it banal

She obviously said it with the hope you would hear , 17ish you said just another gobby teen trying to shock dont read to much into it .

And where have you seen anyone advocate the use of mind altering substances on here, willman? ( Well, there was VARB telling us he enjoys a glass of Vodka most evenings wasn't there, but he didn't try and persuade anyone else to take it up )

How would you propose stopping the use of drugs? They've been a fact of life for many thousands of years.

I do enjoy a tipple a clues in my username.....Vodka And Red Bull.....but this threads about free heroin as a way to stop crime .

It wont work they wont work , already the NHS offer methadone and subatex to junkys but they abuse the system what makes anyone think giving them heroin would make any differance .