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That's a good point. Currently no reason to suppose that all this can't be rolled out again at the appearance of a 'variation'. We need a proper objective cost/benefit analysis and then legislation to ensure that never again can these suppressionist measures be rolled out. So, as things stand, are people who test positive unable to go to work?

Excellent news As I understand it though, the obsessive testing is to continue??

Yes. I suspect that she's been a godsend for the preservation of mental health in a lot of the people who could see right through the suppressionist methods and must have been, like me, very disturbed at the majority of the medias totally biased presentations.

Irrelevant though, as that applies to flights to any destination, so- Still stands.....and I'm guessing it will be Turkey I and several others have been going on about that distinction almost from the very start- the hysterical response was to label us as 'conspiracy theorists'!!

Not saying you're this type of person, I don't know you. But throughout this, a lot of those who supported various mandetory measures [masking/lockdowns] similarly claimed to be against forced/coerced vaccination; yet they did and said very little when the authorities started moves towards them. It was left to conspiracy theorits and alt-righters to speak in opposition to them, which again, is a shame, because now a lot of those who truly value civil liberties will remember that, when it came down to it, the alt-right and conspiracy theorists were the only ones who cared enough to actually oppose forced/coerced vaccinations. As long as you continue to dismiss them all as gullible idiots, you will continue to wonder. Don't you think that someone who sees 'conspiracy theorist' in anyone who disagrees with her on these issues, has an obsession that could be bordering on mental illness. Or is it that you, like many, see 'mental illness' as a very negative thing? Bear in mind that people who are depressed or suffer from anxiety are technically mentally unwell ['ill'], so it not an inappropriate label for someone who sees conspiracy theorists everywhere. Also, is it not a shameful thing for her to be repeatedly calling me a 'conspiracy theorist', when I am nothing of the kind/

None, hence why it is such a shame that their legacy has been ruined by the various corporate interests and authoritarian politicians who forced and coerced people to have an injection they didn't want. I'm not going to waste my time engaging with people who lie about me. I've commented before on your obsession with conspiracy theories, which now seems to be bordering on mental illness.

Shame then that their legacy has been severely tarnished by those who insisted on compulsory and coerced vaccines.

We need more of this- people standing up and saying no to the bullies. No- reporting ad hominem attacks as they are toxic to a 'decent argument' Why not just repost the question? You know what it is [it's your question] so a repost is a great deal easier than expecting someone to trawl backwards through pages to track down a post number. Another ad hominem attack [toxic to a 'decent argument']

Why has it taken the media so long to look at something so obvious that I was posting about it a month ago? And why was I back then being labelled as some kind of conspiracy theorist for pointing out that the statistics being issued would inevitably be wrong because they didn't distinguish between those in hospital because of covid, from those in hospital for non-covid reasons who'd just happened to test positive for it.

" Before United's vaccination requirements were put in place, "tragically, more than one United employee on average *per week* was dying from COVID," Kirby said. "But we’ve now gone eight straight weeks with zero COVID-related deaths among our vaccinated employees." Omicron is less severe than what came before. He added: "While we have about 3,000 employees who are currently positive for COVID, zero of our vaccinated employees are currently hospitalized." Err.... Omicron is less severe than what came before. United’s prior experience and nationwide COVID data suggests "there are approximately 8-10 United employees who are alive today because of our vaccine requirement," said Kirby." Suggests nothing of the kind. I'm not saying the vaccine isn't useful, but all the above can be equally well due soley to omicron being far less likely to lead to hospitalisations and deaths. Kirby is seeing what Kirby wants to see. Really sinister that you're now stalking him across different forums. Nice to see how well your son can swim. Very wise to teach him that it is a lesson in life. As an autistic person I can very well relate to this kind of harrassment from various petty officials who are expert only in rigidly applying blanket rules and policies. Your boy appears to be a natural prodigy in the art of swimming and the fact that this person [and their manager] try to maintain he can't swim [!!!!!] purely because he's not using an officaial stroke, shows them for what they are- bureaucratic cogs. Trust me, for many equally highly talented autistic people, life is the same- a series of harrassment and blocks from talentless neurotypicals who've faked their way into postions of authority where they then try to impose their own level of utter mediocrity on as many as they can. You need to grow up. What a ................!! Is it all right to stalk someone across multiple forums simply because they disagree with you. It does. I agree.

I didn't say seeing a child wearing a mask was normal, or anything like that.

Point well made- there's been so much coercion and bullying with this compulsory masking that a video of child abuse is now OK- cos it's 'only a mask'. Imagine the response had this video been posted 3 years ago! Yes. Do you not?

It is clear that those adults are suffering from some kind of mental sickness. Sad that such a thing has now become normalised. That child has VERY CLEARLY, and repeatedly, indicated that it does not want that thing on it's face. 'No' means 'no', unless, it seems, they are bigger and stronger than you

He never said that. He said children who want to wear a mask are abnormal. Could anyone who disagrees actually provide some evidence for their view? If not, why are they getting so wound up about it? For it not to be abnormal for a child to want to wear a mask, it would have to be the case that, in general, amongst a group of random children, the majority when given the free choice, would choose to wear a mask. Personally I find it very hard to believe that that would be the case. So I feel it is safe to conclude that it is not normal for a child to want to wear a mask. If anyone does belive that in general, amongst a group of random children, the majority when given the free choice, would choose to wear a mask; then, I feel that to be so extraordinary an outcome, that the onus would be on them to provide some evidence for it.

Just totted up some yearly totals from that link- 2015 12 deaths 2016 13 2017 11 2018 9 2019 10 2020 3 2021 21

Interesting point- like you I don't watch terrestial TV- I ceased well over 10 years ago [one of the best decisions I ever made]. I wonder how many others who aren't addicted to the official narrative also don't watch terrestial TV and how much that TV propaganda is responsible for the otherwise hard to expalin mass adoption of said narrative? It's almost as if they actually believed it wasn't deadly? That would make them liars, wouldn't it? I think it's important to point out the totally obvious- that much of the material being posted by the opposition is similarly from the openly biased official narrative network. That's your understanding of 'providing a source'??!!?? Wow. C'mon Chekhov- from the photo in the actual article you post, it is clear that this 'professor' has a shaved head, and, is therefore an alt-right fascist

['it' being the vaccine] If only one thing could be taken on board and agreed with by the pro-orthodox nattative people, I dearly wish it could be that. I'd say it doesn't matter who leaked it, or their motivations- the only important thing is, is it true? Is it true that while these politicians were restricting people from seeing their relatives, and, in some cases, prevented from seeing their loved ones before they died, they themselves ignored all the isolation rules and had a big party? The lesser severity of infections is actually down to omicron itself- it's been known for some time that omicron infections are less severe that delta. I'm not pleased due to the nature of most of the public- if they chance across a thread in which the majority on that thread are denouncing someone as dishonest, conspiracy theorist, alt-right etc, etc, sadly, most will assume 'no smoke without fire'. I've been saying for a long time that there is a 'lockdown industry', and that that will ensure that many of the 'measures' will persist long, long after they are remotely justified. I didn't call anyone a lame brain- I said that generally, ad hominem attacks are a sure sure sign of a bunch of lame brains with zero points to make.

So for Chekhov it's 100% ad hominem attacks now is it? Generally a sure sure sign of a bunch of lame brains with zero points to make.

No, you don't. Maybe you're confusing it with 'Vehicle Excise Duty'? Do you think the cycle tax should be based on emissions, like the car one is?

Do you think motorists should also pay a 'road tax'?

True, but irrelevant to the point being made, which is that natural immunity conferred by actually catching the virus may be more protective than that conferred by the vaccine.

Neither does a vaccine choice- stay on focus

So presumably then, Ikea will be stopping sick leave for it's obese employees? After all, in most cases obesity " is very much a free personal choice. No choice ever comes without consequences."

Basically people choosing to not be vaccinated really annoy many of the mainstream narrative lot, to the extent that it is now acceptable to scapegoat them. It is out and out discrimination, but currently, anyone can get away with it and bully at will. Anyone willing to speak out against it will of course immediately be labelled as 'anti-vax' themselves. For Ikea, not only do they get to indulge in a form of bullying now so acceptable it doubles as a nice bit of virtue signalling, but they also get to save some cash from not having to pay sick leave.

Strange though how, it's the posts that contain links to stuff that goes against the 'masks=good' viewpoint that get ignored, whereas others, with the same font/color 'issues' get a good number of responses Yes, it was helpful, especially the tip about using the Return key to split quotes into parts, I was not previously aware of that.