neworderishere

17 hours ago, Sidonica said:

I have had arthritis for over 20 years (knees) and in my hands for 2 yrs.  I was given naproxen about a year ago and it didn't do any good at all.

On Wednesday I took 1 circumin tablet   (the active ingredient in  turmeric)   and had no pain all day , the same yesterday and today.  I decided to try

it after reading the reviews on amazon. I have never used anything like this before and I have always been  very sceptical of  'alternative' medicine.

My left knee is no longer swollen and my right is only slightly swollen.  If it doesn't continue to work I will let you know.

 

thanks will try that.

 

8 yard skip as you will always find more to go in it, they can drop on road with a permit.

2 minutes ago, Car Boot said:

Every job applicant must answer questions on their application such as:

 

What type of school did you attend when you were aged about 14?  

 

Did you receive free school meals at any point during your school years?  

 

Did your household receive Income Support at any point during your school years?  

 

Did any of your parent(s) or guardian(s) complete a university degree course or equivalent (e.g. BA, BSc or higher)?  

 

If incorrect answers are given, indicating a middle-class background, there must be a rejection of the application. Economic discrimination is both acceptable and essential to balance society. Racial discrimination is never acceptable.

Thats the funniest thing i have heard today made my weekend thank you lol

16 hours ago, Car Boot said:

I guess that's the only way most people could ever become pro-capitalist, by winning a large sum of money against huge odds on a lottery system that is actually a tax on the poor.

Capitalism is king and anyone can benefit if they work and aspire hard enough. luckily a lot dont so that makes it easier for Capitalists.

1 minute ago, tinfoilhat said:

So you’re saying it’s wrong for anyone to racially abuse Diane Abbott? No excuses?

Racial abuse is wrong full stop in any direction , black,white,yellow, brown any colour you like and pretty pointless it just an extension of the school yard mind set. Diane Abbott in this threads case has taken offense at the word coloured, that is not racial abuse.

2 minutes ago, tinfoilhat said:

You’ve lost me again. You wouldn’t racially abuse Diane Abbott but it’s ok or at least understandable if other people racially abuse Diane Abbott?

again thats not what i said. i may understand why they racially abuse her but thats not me saying its right?

1 minute ago, SnailyBoy said:

Would racial abuse be acceptable and well deserved?

not personally but if we look at some of the things she has said in the past which could also be called racial then i am sure there will be some going back her way?

4 minutes ago, Mister M said:

Okay, you've clarified that you don't think the abuse she gets is acceptable

some is acceptable due to stupidity and well deserved but  not death or rape threats. is that clear for everyone?

1 hour ago, tinfoilhat said:

Do ever see anything that Diane Abbott (or amber Rudd if you like) has said or written  and think yep, those death and/or rape threats are completely understandable.

 

If you do, could you give a couple of examples? Help me help you.

i have never once said rape or death threats were acceptable, i was generalising the whole "abuse" thing she gets, i certainly dont think she should have them but hey this is the internet age keyboard warriors quite often say things they would never or could never do.

1 minute ago, melthebell said:

To be fair to neworder I read it as derision, abuse about her stupidity, nothing to do with threats of rape or death

thank you

14 minutes ago, Cyclone said:

It looks like you said

 

 

 

 

And given the context of discussion of rape and death threats it looks a lot like you were trying to make an excuse for them.

ok whatever! go and bang another drum😡

1 minute ago, Cyclone said:

Have you just tried to excuse away death and rape threats as being the fault of the person who receives them?

oh get a grip fella! where did i say that of course i didn't, what i said was that she doesn't help herself with how she says things, now if you want to twist that be my guest😝

1 minute ago, Halibut said:

Have you ever thought about the huge volume of abuse, rape threats and hate that Diane Abbot receives?

quite why anyone would be sick enough to want to rape her i dont know! but she brings a lot of the abuse upon herself not with her politics but with what she says and how she says it? she typifies whats wrong with politics and public speaking. 

1 hour ago, woodview said:

Sky news transcript of comment is:

Ms Rudd had been speaking about the online abuse of politicians on BBC Radio 2's Jeremy Vine Show when she used the term.

She said: "It definitely is worse if you're a woman, and it's worst of all if you're a coloured woman.

"I know that Diane Abbott gets a huge amount of abuse and I think that's something we need to continue to call out."

so she was actually defending Abbott? dear god what has the world come to?

waste of time i reckon, any woman would ask at the bar for help without having to look daft asking for Angela , are there any figures on how many times this has been done?

what were the reasons for refusal ?  size wise you can usually do something  as a single storey extension under permitted development 4m high .

4 minutes ago, leviathan13 said:

Yet more evidence of white privilege!

 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-47468011

 

There's even inequality and racism within the black community!

yes soon we will have to have a colour chart to see which shade is the most unequally treated!?? do dulux do one!

5 minutes ago, ANGELFIRE1 said:

Just been on the evening news, Diane Abbott has been refered to as a "coloured woman" by Amber Rudd. Mz Abbott has demanded an apology as she is offended by the term coloured woman. Of course Mz Rudd has apologised unreservedly, but I doubt if that will be the end of it. Here is my question, is that term, offensive or not.

 

Angel1.

oh course not its snowflakery at its best! we are all some sort of colour.

1 minute ago, Cyclone said:

So you're saying that in your own mind, you're massively prejudiced.

Yes, my judgements are also in my own mind, but I do my best not to think like you do.  I'd frankly find it abhorrent if I had any such thought.  Thought processes like yours are disgusting and exactly why positive action is still needed.

 

If we're lucky you'll get caught out in your hiring practices and taken to court, but unfortunately it's quite easy for racist, sexist homophobes to hide their prejudices.

you have just made my point for me! you can protest all day long that you do the right thing and dont have any prejudices but who would ever know?

1 minute ago, Cyclone said:

So, well, that's a massive demonstration of prejudice basically.  And it would have been so easy.  Watch.

 

If I am interviewing for a warehouse position I don't want someone who can't meet the physical requirement of heavy lifting.  I want someone with a good work ethic who will work hard.

If I'm interviewing for a customer facing position, I want someone who can interact well with customers, is personable and articulate.

 

Look at that, I get to hire the correct people without having any hugely discriminatory prejudices that I have to try to justify to myself.

Thats exactly how to do it outside your own mind, as i said peoples judgement s are in their mind, yours ,mine, everyone's?

5 minutes ago, DnAuK said:

My bold and corrections in same for you.

 

Amazing how your kids could learn that studd when clearly you didn't though...

i should check you're own post Pedant!!!😆"studd"

25 minutes ago, Mister M said:

Not that you're one to stereotype 

not stereo typing at all i say as i find! yes all the poles who have worked for us were grafters, have had various ones and all have done a good job. as for flamboyant do i want an overtly non hetro guy front customer facing er no, maybe in some situations that works to their advantage in another industry like media etc.

3 minutes ago, Cyclone said:

If you have an unconscious bias against women, BAME, none hetero people, then yes, it's wrong.

Equality is in the news today

 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-47462633

 

The met deny racism, as they have done for a number of decades...  They often change their mind quite some time after any given example and accept that it was racist and promise to change their culture.

 

And also a bit of sexism, but this time the institution has immediately taken action.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-47478537

 

if i am interviewing for a warehouse position which i have in the past, i dont want a woman as it involves heavy lifting, i dont want  BAME as they are likely to make things difficult with some preferences, i do want an eastern european who has a good work ethic and can graft.

On the other hand if i want an articulate  person who is service led for a telephone or front facing role then i would look to the BAME or women to fill that role.

as for non hetro it depends on how flamboyant and overt they are!

1 minute ago, SnailyBoy said:

What's your 'gut feeling' on who you like or want to work with?

Me? i work with all types, colours and race, some i like some i dont, but if they make me money i dont care.  my work and social life takes me to various countries.

Just now, willman said:

No it isn't for  - but for others on the recieving end then perhaps they feel it is wrong. It's also an example of where white/males could have had an intrinsic element of advantage in the past. 

when i said Humans i meant of all colours, so a black or Asian interviewer could make the same judgement to suit their situation? its a matter of numbers no more ! in african or other areas of the world where people are predominately black/coloured they have the advantage of judgement, in the west where whites at the moment are the majority we make the judgement s.

1 hour ago, willman said:

Totally agree, thats also very true in some companies with more foreign sounding names on the cv i'm afraid to say - and also with ages. When i was last unemployed i chose not to display my DOB on my CV(the agencies didn't amend it either)and had several more interviews offered than i anticipated, at the interview it was obvious i was beyond the age remit for the job, even with the likes of Sky call centres. So just being a male with an Anglo Saxon name probably got me the interviews.

lets face facts ? Humans rely on instinct and their own gut feeling on who they like or want to work with rightly or wrongly? its a human trait we make judgement s.

i probably made some judgement s in the past whilst interviewing for positions, i made those on what i knew was the criteria to fit in with the workforce. is that so wrong?