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That’s not going to happen, especially if Farage decides to fight the election. Labour majorities may be cut but it will still hold on to most seats. What it won’t do is pick up a whole bunch of marginals from the Tories or Lib Dems which could have given it an outright majority if it had dumped Brexit.

So you agree then, that 1950s and ‘60s Labour was anything but far left?

1950s Labour, Hugh Gaitskell and Clement Attlee. 1960s Labour, Harold Wilson. Far left? Really?

As I said on the Brexit thread, a lot will depend on whether Farage decides to contest the election and split the Leave vote. If he backs off and does a deal with Bozo and Cummings, the election will be close run. If he runs and splits the Brexit vote, we will most likely see a coalition of LabourSNP/Lib Dems/Greens where Corbyn will have to promise Nicola Sturgeon another independence referendum and Jo Swinson a second EU referendum. Labour have messed up big time by clinging on to Brexit. They will never ‘out-Brexit’ the Tories, UKIP and Farage. If Corbyn had resigned in September and the party had run as a full on remain party with a new leader, then they would most likely have a 10 point lead in the polls going into this election.

To stop the Brexit thread being bunged up with election discussion, it might be useful to have a separate thread for what will probably be the most hard fought election for decades.

Or go back to the old days of pocket boroughs when businessmen and landowners ‘owned’ Parliamentary seats.

There was a Radio Four play about Trump recently that was a satire, but all of the crazy crackerjack nonsense his character said, could easily have come out of Trump’s mouth for real.

Farage standing will help Labour’s to retain seats in Labour Leave constituencies where the disaffected Labour voters would rather vote for Farage than the Tories, thereby splitting the Leave vote.

Corbyn’s refusal to unify the remain vote under Labour means that the best he can hope for is some form of coalition with the Scottish ladies and the Greens. Another hung Parliament in December would then leave a second referendum as the only way to resolve the Brexit issue. An extension to the new Jan 31st deadline would only be granted by the EU on condition that a referendum is held to put the matter to bed. Unfortunately, December is to soon for Labour to dump Corbyn. Let’s not forget that it was the grass roots supporters who put in the legwork to turn a 20 point deficit into an ‘almost won’ in 2017. Many of those people will simply not have the passion to repeat that effort for a pro-Brexit Labour Party. And a reminder to ‘soft Brexit’ leave supporters tempted to vote for Bozo. Don’t forget that if Farage doesn’t stand, it will be because a deal over a hard or no-deal Brexit will have been done with Johnson and Cummings.

I believe there are smart phone apps which monitor your sleep patterns but I’m not sure how they work or how effective they are.

Really? A public relations company which seems to specialise in polling for the Telegraph and Express which goes against all other polling on Brexit. And surprise, surprise when you click on the pdf to see the questions asked and the methodology used, you get............nothing! 🤣😂🤣

The public won’t be deciding if an election is called and Bozo decides to delay it until after January. That is Bozo deciding how he wants Brexit to go. Very democratic.

Why only ‘normal hard working people’? Surely anyone who has their car or house windows smashed deserves sympathy, whoever they are?

There was no result to implement. It was an advisory referendum where not only did neither side attract the support of even 40% of the electorate, but there was only 1% between the two options. As I have said many times, it was an act of great political cowardice to promise to leave the EU based on that inconclusive, discredited referendum, not least because every poll before and since has shown that the majority of citizens wish to remain in the EU.

And when an advisory referendum no longer reflects the views of the electorate, it is normal to reconsider the result of that referendum.

As I have pointed out a number of times on here, the 2016 referendum is a matter of historical record and therefore can’t be overturned without a time machine. 🙄

I’m sure that will be uppermost in the minds of Johnson, Cummings, Rees-Mogg and Aaron Banks if the Tories win another term. 🙄

He reported me and got me banned after I made a comment about ‘Comrade Delta’ which puts him in the Socialist Workers Party. His naive ultra leftism and shouty sloganeering reminds me of many middle class Trotskyists.

Which until Labour gets rid of the Brexiteer Corbyn, will be won by the Tories who have united the Leave vote. Until that happens, the best Labour can hope for is a coalition with the two Scottish ladies and the Greens.

It is not actually used as pain relief in itself, but as a coping method for the psychological effects of constant severe pain.

No, the Tory voters of Browtowe expected to have Anna Soubry for a five year term because Anna Soubrey won the Browtowe seat at the 2017 General Election.

There’s nothing wrong with smart motorways, it is the intermittent use of the hard shoulder as a live lane at busy times that is the problem. The hard shoulder is there for a reason.

George Galloway talking about upholding democracy is like Gary Glitter talking about child protection 😱 When was it the EU’s job to protect us from elected governments? And we protected ourselves from the Poll Tax (well those on the left did).

It was either Newsnight or Politics Live https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer or Channel Four News https://www.channel4.com/programmes/categories/news-current-affairs-and-politics It was about six or seven months ago.

That is when you simply ask people ‘How would you vote in another EU referendum?’ The point Curtice was making was that if you factor in the increased likelihood of ‘non-2016 voting Remainers choosing to vote this time round, and disillusioned 2016 Leave voters boycotting another vote, this would skew the result further towards Remain. He said that these things were difficult to quantify but could end up with a Remain vote of 65-70%. That high a Remain vote, combined with the mess the 2016 vote left us in, would certainly kill off any talk of leaving for a generation if not forever.