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58 minutes ago, CaptainSwing said:

Corbyn's position was pro-second-referendum, which is what you've spent most of the last three years arguing for. 

Except that I have never once argued for a second referendum.

Being a Brexit-lite party was never going to win an election for Labour against Bozo’s ‘Get Brexit Done!’ campaign. The only chance Labour had of winning this election was by standing as the only credible Remain Party. To do this they would have had to have ditched Corbyn some time ago.

Yes, it would have lost some Leave seats in the North but would have picked up many more in other areas. Pandering to the minority of traditional, mostly reactionary older Labour Leave supporters has absolutely failed as a strategy as most of those people have still voted for Johnson or Farage.

Just now, CaptainSwing said:

How would that have helped?

He has the same economic policies as Corbyn but opposes Brexit and is much more impressive when interviewed.

9 minutes ago, Car Boot said:

Remainers are largely responsible for the slaughter of the Labour Party, not Jeremy Corbyn.

Corbyn’s ridiculous pro-Brexit stance is what has cost Labour this election.

3 minutes ago, convert said:

Can't believe the result in Blyth Valley. Labour in the wilderness for the next decade

As will be the voters of Blyth Valley.

When their lives get noticeably more crap, who will they blame then?

This will be the Subway subs which taste like cardboard and have equivalent salt content of 17 bags of ready salted?
 

No thank you.

5 minutes ago, Mister Gee said:

Who’s your  replacement?

John McDonnell should have replaced Corbyn at last September’s Labour conference.

2 hours ago, Lord Harold said:

I think the leader of the Labour Party  is going to have a hard days work tomorrow

Hopefully Corbyn will resign before the night is out.

13 minutes ago, Car Boot said:

I didn't support the Labour position on Brexit, I knew it was electoral suicide. 

So now that the polling stations are closed, are you going to tell us whether you voted for Farage or Johnson?

Whichever constituency you reside in, think carefully about the best way to use your vote to keep Bozo and his clowns out of office.

As it looks now, the best people can hope for is a hung parliament with another election in six months by which time Labour will have dumped Corbyn.

If this didn’t happen in the past 12 hours could someone please change the thread title.

Not only do people on here live on Jenkin Road but even more people  know somebody who lives on Jenkin Road. 😡

12 hours ago, Anna B said:

but very few MPs were prosecuted,

Why do you think that was?

39 minutes ago, Baron99 said:

Well if you're looking for role models!?  Good luck trying to find one from any party within the HoC. 

What a ridiculous thing to say given that there are over 600 MPs and you probably only know a handful of them who you’ve seen on the telly. 🙄

3 hours ago, Michael_W said:

..... the left will always claim the media is bias towards the right and vice versa, what are your own observations ?

Which is why an independent academic study* would be useful, although such studies in the past have shown a bias to the right across all media.

(*Of course the right are also suspicious of academics and also view them as a bunch of lefties! 😳)

28 minutes ago, hobinfoot said:

Because it’s better than the alternative.

Only because you’ve been told that it is.

In the real world, a third Tory term along with the proposed Brexit will have the country on its knees within a couple of years.

22 minutes ago, tatybaby said:

Does anybody know where this noise is coming from?

Are you near any industrial units? It could be an air conditioning or refrigeration fan cutting in and out on a thermostat. If it is from an industrial source and it is going through the night then inform the council as they can have the owner fix it or switch it off.

Newspapers can support whoever the owners  wishes them to.

The broadcast media however are governed by strict rules which become even stricter during an election. I hear that at least two universities are collecting data on this election in particular. 

1 hour ago, hobinfoot said:

It’s not just the establishment who find the current Labour Party unacceptable but many of it’s traditional supporters.

Yes, that’s true.

Unfortunately in trying to please voters who are naturally politically right wing and socially conservative Labour is perpetually committed to being a poorer version of the Tories where nothing ever changes.

2 hours ago, Hotmale 1954 said:

Yep. Won another Election to carry on implementing watered down Thatcher policies, which the Tory voters found very attractive.

The establishment still calls the shots and Blair watered down the Labour Party until it became acceptable. 

The current Labour Party is not acceptable to the establishment hence the unprecedented attacks on it particularly Corbyn. If Labour loses this election, suddenly all the character assassination and the antisemitism row will mysteriously vanish.

Job done!

2 hours ago, Bounce said:

My personal opinion is that a terror attack is a large scale attack. A bombing or a mass shooting at the least. 

You are entitled to your opinion but scale has nothing to do with whether something is a terrorist attack or not.

On 01/11/2019 at 18:52, hobinfoot said:

I also did not like Obama getting involved in the referendum.

There is a world of difference between a politician expressing a view and a politician sanctioning a variety of ‘black ops’ fake news operations to influence the vote.

11 hours ago, ECCOnoob said:

Labour for a start.  They jumped all over it no sooner had happened and started the finger pointing at the Tories for their cuts to services.

 

I think you’ll find they didn’t! 

19 hours ago, Bounce said:

So why aren't these attacks being reported as "terror attacks". Your thoughts? 

We like to put our enemies into easily defined boxes. 
 

‘Muslim as victim’ upsets the narrative.

1 hour ago, Mister M said:

OFCOM have ruled that Channel 4 said the broadcaster was fair in the face of Tory threats..

That was always going to happen.

Channel Four fulfilled their regulatory requirement by inviting all major party leaders. They can’t force Bozo to attend therefore the responsibility for there being no Conservative representation during the debate rests squarely with the Conservative Party.

Complaining to OFCOM just makes them look stupid and reinforces the idea that they have a sense of entitlement above other sections of society.

1 hour ago, Michael_W said:

I don't think the Tories are the only ones who have tried to make capital gain out of the young mans death,

Maybe you could enlighten us about which other parties have tried to make capital out of it.

I don’t think that it is age related at all. Most people of any age are pretty clueless when it comes to practical skills.