The Labour Party. All discussion here please in General Discussions Posted December 13, 2019 58 minutes ago, CaptainSwing said: Corbyn's position was pro-second-referendum, which is what you've spent most of the last three years arguing for. Except that I have never once argued for a second referendum. Being a Brexit-lite party was never going to win an election for Labour against Bozo’s ‘Get Brexit Done!’ campaign. The only chance Labour had of winning this election was by standing as the only credible Remain Party. To do this they would have had to have ditched Corbyn some time ago. Yes, it would have lost some Leave seats in the North but would have picked up many more in other areas. Pandering to the minority of traditional, mostly reactionary older Labour Leave supporters has absolutely failed as a strategy as most of those people have still voted for Johnson or Farage.