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Huge development today. 17 Tory MPs and around 35 abstain to ensure Parliament voted 315-274 to block any future prime minister from unconsitutionally proroguing Parliament to push through a No Deal Brexit. The fightback starts, and Johnson's premiership will have to face up to the fact that an anti-No Deal alliance will not let him throw centuries of parliamentary democracy out simply to satisfy 160,000 middle class, aged bigots.

In fairness, given a third of the UK population thinks that anyway, and given that Tory party members are statistically older, rural and southern, that figure isn't as high as I would have thought. I would also think it's worth speculating whether Islamophobia amongst Labour voters is an issue, or rather used to be before such Labour voters abandoned them for Brexit Party or UKIP. But look, cant we keep a Labour Party thread about Labour, and discuss Tory party attitudes in the Tory thread. Whataboutism is a weak argument. You can't defend Labour antisemitism by highlighting Tory islamophobia, or vice versa.

The idea that cretins actually believe this nonsense is a damning indictment of modern America. Its cringeworthy embarrassing to see grown adults taken in like this. The stupidity is just overwhelming.

I think you'll find most of us who find Labour's drift to the far left alarming, fully defend Corbyn's right to be able to lead his party any way he likes. He's made them completely unelectable, and that's got to be a good thing.

Before I answer, are those your words or someone else's? As always, your position is to slogan-heavy simplistic. It's a process, not an event. Workers campaign for better conditions, employers recognise that happier more relaxed workers are more productive. Everyone wins. Work gets easier, employers get richer, more people are employed. Lovely jubbly. Yet more evidence that capitalism has built in defence mechanisms. Perhaps they have tried to speak with the leadership, but feel it has gotten them nowhere. So they have to do this to step up the pressure. I admire your loyalty TCH, even if it seems blind to me.

I dont think it's derailing the thread to point out intellectual dishonesty and plagiarism, particularly when you compound your intellectual dishonesty by selectively deleting parts of the passage you plagiarised, but only those that refuted your argument. Do you do this often? Should we run all your posts through google search to be sure of whether it's your ideas or someone else's? Anyway, back on topic. Labour peers publish a letter calling Corbyn out for allowing anti-semitism in the party. But, of course, they are likely paid for by Jews, or are Jews, or Mossad or something . . . https://news.sky.com/story/labour-peers-release-newspaper-advert-slamming-jeremy-corbyn-over-antisemitism-11764719

Uh huh. OK . You copy and paste an entire paragraph, and yet decide to omit the last few words which expressly state that the miners themselves felt they had achieved nothing and claim that's not relevant. Gotcha. I suspect you deleted it because it didn't support your argument.

Rumbled! You quite literally copy and pasted that from Wikipedia. If you're going to preach to people, at least have the gumption to rewrite stuff in your own words. Oh, and here is the original quote from Wiki. Could you explain why you deleted the last sentence from the paragraph you lifted (bolded by me) while deciding to emphasise the bits that suit your argument? That's a curious omission, and intellectually dishonest. Perhaps it was an inconvenient truth: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1926_United_Kingdom_general_strike "The miners maintained resistance for a few months before being forced, by their own economic needs, to return to the mines. By the end of November, most miners were back at work. However, many remained unemployed for many years. Those still employed were forced to accept longer hours, lower wages and district wage agreements. The strikers felt that they had achieved nothing"

What victory does the Durham Miners gala celebrate?

Putting the AS debate to bed for a while, my major criticism of Labour is their persistent framing of issues in terms of class struggle and historic battles. When i see Corbyn and his allies tweeting like crazy from the Durham Miners Gala event, it reinforces my suspicion that the man and his cabal are firmly rooted in the 1970s an 1980s and simply can't move beyond it. I dont know why? Maybe it's when they felt most relevant. Durham Miners Gala event? I mean, why? JUST WHY? There haven't been miners and mines in Durham for three decades? Why not organise a Norfolk Cottonweavers event, or a Birmingham Coopers, Cordwainers and Candlemakers Gala? It's just as relevant.

£100 quid to a charity of each other’s choice ?

Christ alive. It's almost as if they want this sorry saga to continue forever. Are they so politically inept as to think demanding the BBC removes it is a good stand to take?

There will be an under the table agreement. He will leave, it will go quiet for a couple of weeks and then he will be annouced at St James. The man is without scruple. And what's this nonsense about Sam Allardyce? Why would you replace one of the usual 'bring em in, chuck em out' band of Big Sam, Pardew and half a dozen others (including Bruce) to replace with another has been. Be bold. Go find another Bielsa type.

Yup. Something like that. There is a lot of raw intelligence in there somewhere, and he is certainly articulate. But the ideas are all over the place, and they are shared to make some kind of splash - look at me, look how clever I am - that sort of thing. But they've no deep roots based on understanding and experience.

I dont think James really has these views. I think he's a young fella who talks and writes things without really thinking them through logically, onto to become caught up in the inconsistences of his position. Once he realises those issues, he doubles down and gets entangled more tightly.

There is a school of thought that Trump does this sort of thing to create headlines to deflect attention away from other potentially embarassign areas. It should be noted that it's Epstein's bail hearing in New York today. I wonder if he's worried about any embarassing details coming out. I'm going to make a prediction here: I genuinely believe Trump will spend some time in prison in the next 3-4 years.

I've come to the conclusion that James is not quite a unique poster with an interesting and nuanced shade on the issues of our time I thought he was, to thinking he might just be a bit of a silly arse.

Fair enough TCH. I prefer to not read the entire thread before throwing in pithy and insightful comments to it. As Sydney Smith once said, "I never read a book before reviewing it, because it might prejudice me so."

But Sheffield City Council is not a political party, nor a state. As such, why would a City Council need to make a stand on a foreign policy issue? What am I missing? Has it also taken a position on China's claim regarding the Spratley Islands, and such things. Will it be sending it's foreign office representatives out to those countries on fact finding missions, and opening consulates in the more imporant ones?

Seriously? Even if that foreign born person has earned the right to live in their new country legally, either by having the necessary visas or through naturalisation, has a job, pays taxes, is a good citizen and involved in no crime? Sorry james. I had some sympathy for your (admittedly) complex position on this, but that statement is just wrong. This is nonsense. There is a bit of difference between annoyed householders getting noisy tenants evicted, and getting them to leave the country because they were foreign born. And they were asked to move because they were noisy, not because they were Welsh. You're either trolling, or you clearly havent thought through your position fully.

The council is still looking at trying to sell the library, with a view it is one of the best real estate assets they have. It will likely end up in developers hands, and turned into something different. There are numerous buyers sniffing around.

I don't really understand the point of Sheffield recognising Palestine as a state. I have no problem with the issue per se, but why is it a subject for Sheffield City Council to get involved in? As TCH said, the Labour Party doesn't support states, but can support parties. Why, then, is it ok for for a city council to recognise a disputed state? Is it normal for local authorities to wade into international diplomacy? What does it hope to achieve? Will there be bilateral relations, investment treaties, and twinned cities? Or is it, to be crassly cynical, simply an assinine gesture?

Candidly, it's hard to find any of his public utterances that aren't either a disgrace, or embarassingly stupid.

That would have been had they come poaching and asked you to cancel his contract. he voluntarily cancelled his contract. In other words, he screwed you twice.

ever felt used, lads?