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I know the thread's about TV and I've mentioned him before but Rod Sharp on 5live still can't put a sentence together without going err, erm every few words. I would have thought that a basic requirement of a radio presenter would be the ability to speak. The only reason I can think of that how he keeps his job must be down to the usual BBC nepotism, mind this is an organisation that had as one of its biggest radio stars of the 50s a ventriloquist Peter Brought and dummy Archie Andrews, at least you never saw his lips move.

According to NHS digital at the weekend the number of EU nationals working in the NHS in the year to June 2017 increased to 43,509 from 42,153 in June 2016.

Still here then I see, you're not really going are you? We're not complaining bacause leave won the referendum, that's how democracy works, something the losers don't seem to understand. ---------- Post added 23-11-2017 at 19:46 ---------- Don't worry,Whitby was never going to win that.

Glad to hear it Anna, at least you're sticking to your principles, unlike some of the champagne socialists.

I don't know if it's the same now, but a few years ago a relative of mine took early retirement in his fifties. I think he got unemployment pay for a while then signed on as unemployed til he was 60 to qualify for full state pension when he turned 65.

But you didn't believe them, and non of us who voted for brexit are complaining, so why are you?

I'd like to see us win this series 5-0 but can't see it, I'll go for us winning 2-1. Incidentally I know Vince had a good knock but I'd stop his wages for today for getting run out on the first day.

I never got to see Deep Purple, would have loved to have seen them at their peak, in the late fifties and early sixties I saw most of my British favourites, Lonnie Donegan, Beatles, searchers, the Who, Hollies, Manfred Mann etc. But by the time the seventies came round we had kids and a mortgage and spending money on going to see groups was off the agenda. They've been on the red button in concert all week and even though Ian Gillan has lost a lot of the power in his voice they're still amazing musicians, in fact I've always thought that Seve Morse is a better guitarist than Richie Blackmore, despite the fact that he came up with memorable riffs which are instantly recognisable.

Flopping heck Anna, pardon me if I'm mistaken, but weren't you asking about letting agents for a property on another thread. There was I thinking hurray, Anna's rejected socialism and embraced capitalism. I don't know what Jeremy Kyle, whoops sorry, I meant Jeremy Corbyn ( I always get them mixed up ) is going to say about this at your next meeting, I'd be inclined not to tell him if I were you.

Won't get fooled again!!!!! Not much anyhow. Reported on BBC the other day that at one of the rallies somebody Had a sign saying 'Wenger out'.

Flopping heck, so it's IF I leave now. You've been promising us for eighteen months that you were going. Get thissen out and have a few pints then you might not be so depressed.

Me too, whenever I've seen it she's usually giggling like a star struck teenager. She probably can't believe she's actually getting paid for that rubbish.

I see Gordon the gurner has resurfaced and is saying we should reconsider our decision, well I've got news for him we don't need to reconsider, most people still think he's a halfhead. This is the bloke who was part of the government that opened the borders to Eastern Europeans to come and claim benefits. The more interventions from him and Bliar the better, they only reinforce the view that the decision was the right one.

I bet she doesn't get in front of me in the queue. I've had flu twice before I retired and both times I thought I was dying, I was off work for more than a fortnight both times and even when I went back I felt knackered. I used to smile when people I was working with had a couple of days off with a cold then said 'I've had the flu', I thought then, no you haven't or you wouldn't be here now.

Not at BDTBL as yet, but no doubt you're right it will happen if we manage to get promoted in the next few years.

Same here, mind when we're out my missus keeps telling me 'why don't you put a watch on?, when I ask her the time. I've still got the gold watch my parents bought me when I turned 21 as used to be the custom. I wound it up the other week and it's still working well despite only being cleaned once in over fifty years. I've tried to pass it on but none of the family want it to use. And I'm loath to sell it when I think what it my parents gave up to buy it, I can still remember going with my dad to choose it and it probably cost him more than a weeks wage.

There was a programme on TV the last time this came up. They were saying on there that some of the people who write the tax laws build in the loopholes then ultimately go to work for the accountancy firms and exploit them. To most people it would probably seem fair that if a tax system says that a certain percentage of income is taxed at a certain rate that's what it should be. The situation has gone on for years and unless every country in the world does something about it then it won't change. Something that is very unlikely to happen.

Thanks for that. You say you voted remain because you felt the status quo was OK, well I voted to leave for the opposite reason. Some on here say the EU could be changed if we remained even though there had been never any sign of that happening as the mandarins in Brussels moved towards a more federal state. We joined a common market originally and moved further away from that over the years with the electorate being taken for granted. David Cameron came back with a pathetic deal with vague promises for the future because again he thought the electorate were mugs and would fall for it. If that deal had been even a little bit better and taken more control back I'm sure the vote would have gone the other way. Just another example of 'we know better than you'.

You perhaps haven't noticed but the remainers lost the referendum. And I will always have a go back when someone has a go at me or my family either verbally or physically, it's a working class thing. And most of the mud slinging on this thread has come consistently from certain remainers on here. As for the rising costs and falling wages, there is an opinion from some that food prices will fall when the UK can make its own trade deals, and also that wages are being held down by mass immigration. To add to that some also feel that housing costs have risen and health care and education have also suffered for the same reason. It's up to the individual who they believe on different sides of the argument and I've seen no sign of anyone I know who voted for either side changing their opinion. I'm OK with that fair enough, I'm not going to change your opinion and you're not going to change mine, but you're correct we can at least be civil on both sides, and it might be a good idea if some of the sneering stopped from some on here. They might not know but it is counter productive.

Got to agree, I can't fault you. I once tried reading his autobiography, a few pages in he said something like ' we didn't have much money when I was young, we ate a lot of bread and dripping'. A few pages later he was talking about the ponies in the paddock. I thought that sounds like my childhood apart from the ponies and paddock. Mind you it made a good noise a few minutes later when it hit the bin.

There you go again, typical remoan loser. I never said I was angry about working on the tools for fifty years, in fact I was quite happy as it was something I was and still am good at, and didn't work for fifty years on the shop floor, I had several jobs and the last few years was self employed, after getting fed up listening to the moaning of fellow workers in my last employment which was in the public sector, most of who by the way had never worked anywhere else. This thread is about brexit and the remoaners have turned it into something that gives them the chance to make up stories and brag about how well they've done because they are the more intelligent. What all the champagne socialist seem to forget was that the working class and I emphasise the word WORKING were the main group of people who voted for brexit, and the main reason was that they were fed up of being taken for granted, and the assumption that they would always do as they were told. David Blunkett was the Home Secretary when the floodgates were opened to the Eastern Europeans who came here for various reasons, better housing, education, health care, benefits and jobs etc, but immigrants don't come here to do missionary work or for humanitarian reasons, they came for something better than they had in their own countries. He moved to Derbyshire quick enough, I wonder why he didn't move to Page Hall. All the things above were reasons for the brexit vote by the working classes as they are the ones who've seen the main effects of mass immigration,he certainly didn't see that coming, no pun intended.

Where's he going to join you? Are you another one who's going to leave the country like some have been telling us for the last eighteen months? I'm sure you'll be very happy together. By the way I'm not in any job (shrug) I'm retired. I was one of the uneducated people who worked on the tools for fifty years, and when I wasn't working I wasn't getting paid apart from a short period working in the public sector so I wouldn't have had time to spend on forums bragging about how much I was paid.

Yes I know that, you've been telling us for eighteen months. Can you tell us where you're going to earn that much for spending all day on their forum, there'll be a rush to get there.

Absolutely delighted with our position at the moment. I was convinced we'd get something there, even at half time I thought we'd come back, but never mind these things happen and will happen again. As long as we carry on as before and show the same spirit we're going to be ok.

Hans Christian Anderson must be spinning in his grave.