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Great thread Mooks, I just thought I'd tell you how I got into liking what I regard as Metal, it might stir memories for people of my vintage.

I'm even older than you but we've got to keep young, I got interested in music about 1959 when I was a youngster, until then all we'd had were copies of American crooners,then copies of American R&Rers Adam Faith, Cliff Richard etc copying Elvis, Buddy Holly etc, the only original we had was Lonnie Donegan, then and I can remember it now, one night about 1962 on Granada Television I saw the Beatles singing Love me do and I thought wow , it Was a game changer for Music, we went to see them at City Hall a couple of times and they were even better live, we started going round the clubs in Sheffield and Manchester saw the Hollies, Searchers, Manfred Mann and a few others then the Who about 64 can't remember if it was Mojo or Esquire, great times. Then of course you get married, have kids and you're too busy working to go and see groups.

Then in the70s i began playing cassettes of my version of metal in the car on the way to work, Zeppelin, cream, pink Floyd and Deep Purple.

Then when I retired I started buying CDs of compilation albums at the supermarkets for a fiver,so along with the 60s stuff I've got things like Lynyrd Skynyrd and those above, I know they're probably not a real metal fans idea of heavy metal but they'll do for me. Finally If I had to pick only 3 tracks to listen to for the rest of my life they would be, Jumping Jack Flash, stones, Won't get fooled again, the Who and Highway star, deep purple.so thanks for the thread Mooks.

I heard from BT two months ago about this, I had been expecting it when they took over European matches, but to be fair I think it's not bad in this day and age considering you also get a premier league match most weekends.

Well said newcomer01, I've only just joined SF after retiring and finding time, but I can't believe some of the vitriol directed after reasoned opinion or light hearted comment. I think we should all agree that opinion is just that.

In the nearly fifty year that I've voted I've had numerous discussions and arguments with family, friends and work colleagues about politics and such without falling out, and in that time I can't remember too many people changing opinion, so can we please chill out.

Don't panic Captain Mannering, David Cameron has called a meeting, so it's sorted.

Mind you, we will need to read his statement very carefully, like all politicians the operative words are usually could, should, can or might.

I'm not a horse racing fan, but he was a pleasure to listen to, knowledge and enthusiasm.

Everyone I've heard talking about him who knew him has said he was a true gentleman.

A legend.

Touched a nerve the Timeh.

It seems clear that there's too many people in GB and we need to deport a few,

I think we should start on:

People at golf tournaments who shout " get in the hole" when the golfer hits a shot 300 yards from the green.

People who sit in aisle seats on buses and trains when there's an empty seat by the window. I know a bloke who bumps in to them on purpose then says sorry.

Families who go on holiday mob handed monopolising all the sun beds, usually scousers, Geordies and cockneys.

Arsenal fans who complain about Arsene Wenger,(they should try living in Sheffield)

There would of course be exceptions in these depending on which football team they support, obviously Blades would be exempt.

True, she was but don't even get me going on Rooooobert Peeeeeeeston.

Well, this is a first.

I used to listen to 5 live quite a bit but some things have been bugging me lately, I know I'm not the most articulate person on the forum, but these people get paid for talking, presenters and reporters.

Who can't put a sentence together without umming and erring all the time, some of the worst are Chris Warburton, Peter Allen and Rod Sharp.

Starting every sentence with, basically, saying yer know, at the end of the day, they'll soon be saying, he turned round, then it will be like the Jeremy Kyle show.

And why do they play music behind reports? Is it just to stop me hearing?

Sorry about the rant but I had to start somewhere.