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  1. That should be a doddle for anyone who has a physical job and takes it seriously. I don't know what it is now, but for the army selection test we had to do a 1.5m run in under 10m 30s, sit ups to the beep and chin ups on best effort. It's even harder nowadays I believe. For front line officers, they should be very physically fit I think. More than what that test sets the bar at anyway.
  2. I remember some TV program showing the fitness test they have to take, and it was hardly taxing. It was walking, running to the beep, and nothing like the BFT soldiers have to take to prove operational fitness. I would like to see the police be expected to be at a similar fitness level to soldiers, I think there would be a lot more successful foot chases Having said that though, I honestly can't remember when I last saw a fat police officer. I'm sure there are some, I just haven't seen any.
  3. I understand the constraints put on SYP, but it doesn't excuse their apparent unwillingness to address the issues we are experiencing, issues that come under the remit of those at senior management level. Our safer neighbourhood team work their arses off her in our village, but the lack of clarity from up high impedes their work. We keep hearing from senior officers that they are working to address issues, but they are happy trying to sweep stuff under the carpet and deflect blame.
  4. I never saw it, but have just found this on the beeb news site: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-29034230 This guy smacks of sheer incompetence, and seems to have more lives than a cat in his career. He has a long history of incompetence at best and downright dishonesty at worst.
  5. Either way he would end up with a golden handshake, which is even worse!
  6. You've lost me here. Yes I would like to see Crompton resign from his post due to the poor policing in our community and others like Page Hall and Eastwood, but how does that translate to lock them up and then deport them?
  7. At what point has anyone who's posted here said lock them up and deport them? Or even suggested that?
  8. I don't doubt that there are certain elements within our community that will not cooperate with the police, but you placed a blanket assumption on all of our community, and it is for reason I said you were talking twaddle. Have you bothered to read any of the other posts I made, especially the one regarding 101 calls? You also said that you failed to see how the police were to blame and then backtracked saying that both the community and the police were to blame. On the point of crime going incorrectly reported and then not being followed up, I have experienced this myself, as has another close family member in a seperate incident. In my case, I asked a man to stop shouting in the early hours of the morning at the front of my house. I was then threatened with a knife, with the man threatening to kill me, my family and all the English. His words. By the time the police got there he had gone into his house. The police knocked on his door, and after a minute walked away as there was no answer. They said they couldn't do anything as he had probably fallen asleep. I heard nothing more except for when I called them. When I did I was informed that it had been recorded as a non-racial anti social incident. If that isn't poor policing I don't know what isn't. My experience is certainly not unique here in Hexthorpe, and there have been numerous cases of incidents not being reported properly or being dealt with by an inappropriate response. How in the hell is that the fault of the community???
  9. Sorry but that is absolute twaddle! There have been several incidents of knife crime reported to the police and the police have not followed through with investigating the incidents, despite people being prepared to be witnesses. You are excusing the police and blaming the community, and I can tell you now that is absolute rubbish. Even the police have admitted there have been shortcomings on their part. We fully understand that the police have an uphill struggle, but when senior police officers cannot offer long term strategies and ignore serious policing issues then the person who has overall responsibility must uphold that responsibility. Being offered short term initiatives with no consultation on what happens at the end of those initiatives is not responsible or effective policing!
  10. The apathy is already setting in here in Hexthorpe, with many people believing it's a waste of time reporting incidents as they are either going to be written off as something less than what it actually is, or a slow response is going to make the reporting a waste of effort. That leaves us all in a position where both serious and non-serious incidents are going unrecorded and unreported. If it is a national problem, it is one which needs urgent attention, as it skews the real picture of social and crime problems. Maybe the police and government are happy for that to happen, because it makes them look rosier in the statistics? Or maybe it's me being cynical? Thanks and I'm sure we all appreciate that here in Hexthorpe, I know I do :-)
  11. We are currently getting short term goals, such as the Operation Alliance, that has now ceased. We asked the question then and we ask it now, what the hell happens now?? To date we haven't had a definite strategy. There seems to be a total lack of clarity in how they are going to address these issues long term, and it feels like the buck is being passed on to the community.
  12. Do you not think two years is long enough for him to become acquainted with the problems our communities have been facing? He came into office in 2012. How long should we wait then before we lay the blame at his door? I'm amazed that you think that he doesn't know or understand what is happening in our communities. I believe he knows full well, and it's under his leadership that the problems with policing have continually got worse. I also believe that he has had ample time to address the issues present. Another example of the problems. Since the problems were raised by our community, we have been constantly told by the police to report as many incidents as we can, so they can get an accurate feel of the frequency and type of incidents, and plan accordingly. We were told to call 101. Great we thought. They are taking us seriously. That was until we started hearing about the problems when residents were calling 101. Many abandoned their calls after the call not being answered after long periods. Because the call is answered automatically and then the caller is put on hold, the caller incurs a phone charge. We've been told frequently that people are waiting 10, 20 or 30 minutes+ for the calls to be answered. Even when the calls are being answered promptly, the callers have faced hostile operators, questioning why they were calling and if it was appropriate to be calling 101, even when the situations being reported were enough to cause distress to those calling. Examples would be of a 101 operator questioning why the caller would call 101 to report a party in the early hours that was causing a disturbance on the whole street. There were more serious issues that are apparently being dealt with too. It got to the point that the council intervened and set up a hotline at their cost to counter the problems. The matter was raised numerous times to senior police officers, and promises were made on resolving the issues. To date they haven't been. I could go on and on highlighting the problems, and I don't for a minute believe that David Crompton was wholly unaware of them. Even if he was unaware, then on that basis alone he should be sacked!
  13. Let's be clear here. The primary reason for the petition is the lack of proper policing in our community, Hexthorpe. We have spoken to members of Page Hall and Eastwood communities too, and they have said the same. The police are not doing their job. It is for this reason primarily that we wish to seek David Crompton's resignation. He was in charge whilst the problems have arisen and is in charge now as the problems continue. We were offered a 6 week initiative here in Hexthorpe, called Operation Alliance, where the police were supposed to be stamping down on anti social behaviour and crime. The initiative ended and we are back to square one. The anti social behaviour continues, as does the crime. only last night a serious knife incident resulted in 4 men being arrested and 2 of them being stabbed. There have been several knife related incidents here where no arrests were made and the reports of the incidents were not followed up. After having spoken to representatives of the other communities, we know that what we are going through they are too. It's OK defending Crompton, but if his force is providing an ineffective and unreliable service, he must accept responsibility for that. Quite amused how people come to his defense, but refuse to acknowledge that he gets paid a large salary to accept that responsibility!!
  14. Yeah we should trust him: http://www.upsd.co.uk/david-crompton/ Okey dokey, we tried trusting SYP and look where that has got us!
  15. David Crompton took on a highly paid job that compensates for the accountability the post holds. The buck stops with him whilst he is in office. If there is widespread ineffective policing within South Yorkshire then he must accept responsibility for that, commensurate with the post he holds. The don't blame him argument doesn't wash unfortunately. If he was a CEO of a business that went bust, the shareholders would be demanding his resignation. Think of him as the CEO and us the shareholders, so why should he not resign? If he cannot formulate effective policing strategies, regardless of budget constraints, then he has no right to be in the role he is. Again, if he was a CEO and the business was struggling, the shareholders would look to him to deliver solutions and not expect him to be all apologetic and say we're stuck here and there's nothing I can do.
  16. It's current policing issues in Hexthorpe, Page Hall and Eastwood that we are more concerned with, like non reporting of serious crimes, lack of effective policing in terms of anti social behaviour and a whole range of other poor policing issues. He was and is in charge and should be held accountable.
  17. We've created a petition calling for the resignation of David Crompton, for the sheer ineptitude that South Yorkshire Police has demonstrated. http://www.change.org/p/the-home-office-remove-david-crompton-from-his-post-of-chief-constable-for-s-yorks-police?share_id=gFZDMEJDWY&utm_campaign=share_button_action_box&utm_medium=facebook&utm_source=share_petition
  18. I live in Hexthorpe, Doncaster and we are experiencing the same problems as Page Hall. We were told by our Chief Inspector that lessons had been learned from Page Hall, and they were applying them in Hexthorpe. It will be interesting to compare.
  19. I hear you on that one, and fully agree. If we get even a whiff that the message we are trying to put across is going to be compromised and turned into something it's not, then we would rather cancel the march. ---------- Post added 24-06-2014 at 00:23 ---------- Well after watching the program on Page Hall on beeb, it's done nothing but resolve our intentions to go ahead with the protest march. The police complained about cuts to their budgets, we've been told this ourselves by the police. The laws available are not being used effectively, that was obvious. Those two problems are enough for a protest on their own, especially when you consider the number of people that are having the quality of their lives blighted because of these issues. What other option do we have? Put up with it and hope that it gets better? Take the law into our own hands and then fall foul of the law ourselves? We need to put pressure on those in power to resolve the issues we are facing, be it Page Hall, Eastwood, Hexthorpe or anywhere else that these problems are happening.
  20. Thanks, it's much appreciated. I really do hope that the issues we are all facing can be resolved. We are still pressing on with our plans for the peaceful demonstration march, and we are asking anyone who is interested in joining us to complete a simple registration form on the home page of our website, so we can get an idea of the number of people who are interested in attending. We can't give a date for the march yet, as we have to meet with the police and council this week. If you are interested and may attend, please let us know. We do hope the march becomes unnecessary, but that is not looking likely. Thanks https://www.hexthorpematters.co.uk
  21. :DI'm a man!!! Thanks for what you were saying though, it was horrible to have to go through what we did on Christmas Day, and even worse when we felt abandoned by the police. I remember speaking to the operator on the 999 call, and my whole body was shaking. I've worked in jobs where I've dealt with abusive and violent people, but when they were threatening me, my wife and kids I was scared witless. Even if I wanted to, I couldn't have done anything myself as they were mob heavy. I never want to go through something like that again, and I hope my kids don't have to either.
  22. Several of our group have written to and emailed him, as far as I know, without any success. I'm in the process of contacting him concerning our own experiences with the two incidents, how successful that will be I really don't know.
  23. No I didn't. I have two daughters, one is 8yrs old the other 14. Neither of them have experienced any of the incidents you mention. What gave you those ideas? There have been reports of young girls in Hexthorpe being shouted lewd comments by large gangs of men and youths, and also several assaults, but this hasn't happened with my family. Just out of curiosity too, what made you think I was a woman?
  24. I honestly believe that the councils, police and especially the government, for all areas concerned, are just hoping that this will just blow over and the people who are complaining will get fed up and shut up. That is the impression we have been given here in Hexthorpe, and I'm sure there are many in Page Hall and Eastwood who feel the same too. When does enough become enough, when there are people killed because of the tensions? As for why the police seem unwilling to make arrests, I often wonder if it's because they know a lot of those causing problems are living a transient life and making a successful prosecution would be hampered by this? I know that there are a lot of transient newcomers here, be they Roma, English or whoever, and they seem to be the ones who are often causing the problems, so there may be an element of what I suggest with the police. Both of the offenders, and their families in the two serious incidents we experiencing have moved on, but it was a good while after the incidents occurred.
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