unbeliever

Have a look on this web site https://www.handlesandhinges.co.uk/

Thanks. Tried that site already. Might be a good place if we have to replace the entire mechanism.

The handle has come off my French window.

Disassembly shows that the reason it has come off is that 2 threaded widgets have snapped which allowed the handle to be secured to the drive gear locking mechanism.

Photos of the broken widgets:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B8I2HNFd59WIdXotWERGdUxPZzQ/view?usp=sharing

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B8I2HNFd59WIUG93UHpPV2FXTGc/view?usp=sharing

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B8I2HNFd59WISXBMOFJLVnk4YlE/view?usp=sharing

I have tried to track down compatible widgets to replace them but it's very hard work not even knowing what they're called. Googling the part number, 8-621 didn't get me anywhere.

If anybody knows what these widgets are called and better still where I can get them I'd appreciate a tip.

Thanks.

Back in the real world.

Latest yougov poll has literally twice as many people planning to vote Conservative as Labour. I'm not kidding it's actually a factor of 2: 48% to 24%

http://ukpollingreport.co.uk/blog/archives/category/voting-intention

ICM polls from the day before indicate 44% to 26.

If the Conservatives actually get 50% of the vote, will their democratic right to govern and to implement Brexit finally be recognised.

I'm sure there will be some excuse to declare them illegitimate. Tough though. Best start working on it now.

Yet you are indefensible. Why not address the points that Churchill made, rather than just claiming they are fake democracy?

I made no such claim.

Yet again you pretend I said something I did not.

Your deceit knows no bounds.

Your sarcasm detector appears to be broken.....

Yours in fact. He was being genuine.

You really should not defend him. He's unworthy.

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You are looking at entirely the wrong posts my friend. I suggest that you go back for another read.

I have plagiarised his speeches several times and you keep coming back against his arguments and saying that I don't believe in democracy.

 

Play the ball, not the man: it does not matter who makes the argument. They are his arguments, they are what he believed ergo what you believe is democracy is not what Churchill believed is democracy.

 

As I said, you clearly don't understand the concept.

 

QED

It's not a new trick. Redefine something and then suggest that your opponents are stupid for not using your definition.

The Emperor has no clothes.

Ah, but as Unbeliever is so keen to point out: Churchill didn't believe in democracy.

Liar.

A quick check of the relevant posts will reveal to any interested party that you lied about what Churchill had said about democracy and then tried to weasel out of it.

Good. Since you've acknowledged the point raised perhaps we can move on now your thoroughly derailed the thread.

I never claimed it was direct. Straw man.

My heart bleeds... I notice the hastily tagged part to deflect my obvious response.

 

If you are getting a bit tired after getting what you want try to consider how those who lost people, have lost jobs, rights to abode, movement, citizenship et al are feeling hmm?

 

You get to sit pretty and feel a bit despondant about people complaining. Oh the horror! I've been forced to move countries, I have an uncertain future if I cannot establish right of abode, it has cost me personally a great deal and you are bleating about feeling a bit tired?

 

Words fail me.

Which is why I make allowances. But there are limits.

I've read it. There isn't much in the way of people or profits in merely brokering securities. Unless you mean in speculation which isn't the same as brokerage.

Not directly. But all economic activity which contributes to the value of the economy overall has value which ultimately feeds through to jobs.

All of which is irrelevant to the point Hairyloon was making which was that such trading doesn't require lots of people.

 

whilst it may or may not be economically useful you cannot present that fact as a valid point when the debate point is about something else entirely

 

HL pointed out that you don't need many people to trade large volumes of shares.

 

He is right. Point made, by him and time to move on.

That's not the point he was making. Re-read post 335.

I never did say I was indifferent to the debate, I said I was indifferent about those 'left behind' by Brexit.

 

Perhaps read my post #1811 and #1813 again, and this time have a stab at understanding them. And maybe even consider the question I put to you at the time (and again in #1822).

 

I'm not emotional in the least: I just called you out, like Obelix and Hairyloon -and so many others before them- have.

 

And you've fudged it steadfastly.

 

Off to the ignore list with you, I'm wholly uninterested in justifying myself further and seeing any more of your 'debating' (debate-shutting, really) barbs.

 

For the avoidance of doubt, no loathing whatsoever in this post, just disappointment, and now complete indifference about whatever else you may post next. Maybe you'll get the distinction between both concepts.

Not sure what good this does you. I can still counter your posts but you can't counter mine.

I have got a bit tired tolerating the rage of the remainers on here. I do sympathise with those who suffered personal losses on account of Brexit, and those who have suffered abuse from Brexit-supporting thugs.

Find a post from me along the lines of "Oh look at the suffering of the people of the EU and rejoice". Or "Look at this isolated anecdote of a thing that may happen and may be good, Brexit is the cause".

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When people stop building a constructive relationship and reciprocating goodwill with you, do you still engage with and rely on them?

 

There's no loathing. Just complete and utter indifference.

The UK does want a constructive relationship. Just not a political union.

I've answered this about a thousand times already.

Are you sure you are not mixing up people with profits here?

 

There are not millions of people involved in high volume share trading.

But the shares are ultimately shares in real companies. And moving their ownership around is economically useful. Without it, the economy would be smaller and everybody would be worse off.

None of you last 3 posters were going to vote for May anyway.

What are you, the thought police?

 

You started earlier this morning inferring "loathing" from me, without answering a bona fide question in context, and not content with that, now you seek to censure my contribution to the thread as well?!?

 

Have a free can of f off from me, and cop on sometime

It seems to me that you've taken to evading questions yourself with posts along the lines of "I'm indifferent" or "I'm enjoying watching the (imaginary) suffering of my victorious opponents".

Now you're getting emotional because I've called you on it.

Either engage in the debate or don't. Jumping out with a comment when you feel like it and then answering with "I'm indifferent" or other such nonsense when challenged is not cricket.

You're clearly not indifferent. It's just something you've taken to saying as a tactic.

Thank you for the abuse by the way. It's always nice to have the moral high ground handed to one on a silver platter.

How many people are employed per transaction in the buying and selling of stocks and shares, bearing in mind that most of those transactions are done by robots at rates of many millions per second.

 

Where does the profit that they make actually come from?

 

Per transaction, an absolutely tiny fraction of 1. In total, absolutely millions.

You might want to look some of this stuff up. You're very quick with the whole "you don't agree with me therefore you've misunderstood" line. That's going to cause problems for you if you display wilful ignorance of that which you can easily learn.

UK government apparently believes that it can negotiate for EU agencies to remain in the UK post-Brexit

So, it's (yet another) proof that either

• the government hasn't clue and is making it up as it goes along; or
  
• that another chunk of the 350m that's not going on the NHS will be sacrificed 'negotiated' to keep something that passes for the EMA and/or the EBA in London.

Note that I do not exclude some degree of causality between these alternatives

 

The EU Commission had this to say about it yesterday.

Your "indifference" is slipping again.

The super rich may employ more expensive hair dressers, cleaners and suchlike than the merely rich, but they do not employ very many more. Likewise with consumables.

 

And what industries do you refer to?

Most of the super rich make their money on the markets, which is now mostly a sophisticated way of fleecing everybody.

 

Now you see I promised so despite your own attitude I shall try to explain this without being insulting.

Every time the rich make money it gets taxed. That tax money pays for our public services.

Every time rich spend money they spend it on goods and services which poorer people are paid to provide.

Every time the rich invest money in order to gain more, they employ people in the process.

Anybody who has a job in the private sector needs the rich, anybody who consumes government services needs the rich, and anybody who works for the government needs the rich.

Do try not to hate them. You need them in order to live.

Now the only way a decent society can function is with progressive taxation. So I want the rich to pay lots of tax too. But if you're setting tax policy out of resentment and jealousy then you'll drive them away, or deter them from doing all the rich people things that your exchequer and your economy need them to do.

They'll be fine by the way. They'll just leave or retire. But you'll lose jobs and tax revenue like you wouldn't believe and everybody else will suffer like you've never seen.

Please read this thoroughly and think seriously about it before you run around advocating all this "pipe squeak" rubbish as you'll achieve the exact opposite of your goals.

Take your time. We'll all just watch the tumbleweed roll by why while we wait

Sorry. Are you here against your will?

I consider that it does insult my intelligence thanks all the same. I don't think you realise how insulting you have become of late which is why I'm hardly disposed to be of a more sunny temperament towards you.

Well I take such things seriously coming from you, so I shall take some time to review my own posts and reconsider my attitude.

I'll start with this one and your sudden backtracking it didn't apply to me...

That does not contain an insult to anybody's intelligence and this and other threads and absolutely full of me making a case for Brexit.

I reserve the right to fight back when insulted.

If you want to treat my clarification as backtracking then you go ahead, but I don't think you'll fare well if you're held to the same standard.

Funny I was just thinking the same about yourself.....

Example please.

Theres your politics of envy again.... you want to watch for it it makes your hateful and bitter if you carry on like that....

 

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Take away the top 1% that Jacktari loathes so much and the tax take from income tax falls by about a quarter. So to maintain that take take everyone elses tax rate rises. Assuming you keep the existing personal allowance a quick off the cuff calculation shoves the base rate up 15% assuming an equal pro rata lift to the upper rates.

¿ Yes but at least the super-rich would suffer. I mean for a few weeks whilst they arranged to become residents of another country and pay taxes there. ¿

Which simply demonstrates how little you understand.

Sorry, I have misjudged you, I thought you were smarter than that.

Every other post from you contains an insult to your opponent's intelligence. If you were capable of making a case you would. As it is beyond you, this is all you have.

Perhaps.

 

I left because of a few reasons. The loathing that my country had for the EU as evidenced by the poll, and more by the actions of xenophobic and racist brexiters were a significant reason, albeit not the only reason.

I do understand.

Perhaps if enough attention is drawn to the issue of bigoted thugs over the next several weeks, it will become an election issue and action will finally be taken.

It is certainly something I shall raise at every opportunity.

If you understood it, then you would be able to see which version is fake.

I understand your ideas perfectly. Whatever gets you the "right" result is what you support. Hack on some weak democratic justification and off you go.