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16 hours ago, L00b said:But then, this Slovakia that they would choose today, is today's socio-economic equivalent of the UK 40 years ago - and that is exactly what the EU is all about: lifting all boats with the tide.
That is how and why the UK became a net contributor, likewise Germany, likewise France, likewise Ireland (in 2016, after 43 years)...eventually, so will Slovakia, and manufacturing will likely move yet again, as that country transitions to a knowledge-based economy like its forefathers did.
What you do not comprehend (or refuse to accept) is that the older/larger members should lift and help the new members to become as successful as them, instead of seeking to exploit them colony-like.
There's no place left for that worldview nowadays: if you're not a wagon collaborating with the others in the circle, well...good luck dealing with the indians outside on your own.
It's very revealing that your inspiration for EU membership is derived from European colonialism stealing Native American land in order to build empires. Or do you call it 'lifting them up'?
I'm on the side of the Native American and opposed to colonialism and EU empire building.
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On 24/11/2020 at 16:05, Anna B said:Can somebody tell me why we no longer make British cars in Britain? (Apart from Morgans, serious question.)
The political and economic will to make British cars no longer exists Anna, a consequence of our EU membership.
'Leave it to the EU - we're not capable' has become the mentality of most of our political leaders, the Whitehall mandarins at the top of the civil service and our so-called captains of industry.
It smacks of a 'UK is a failure' attitude which has become increasingly prevalent during our membership of the EU capitalist club.
So much so that it explains the Remain vote and the terrified belief that to Leave the EU is an act of economic suicide. It's nothing of the sort, of course. We will adapt and do things differently, as we always have.
It's not the fault of British workers that we don't make British cars anymore - it's because our political and economic leaders lack vision and ambition.
Just leave it to the EU and the Japanese!
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17 hours ago, tinfoilhat said:Please ignore that nonsense Anna. Poor management is the simple answer off the back decades of poor management and industrial strife. We are also very keen in this country on selling businesses for foreign money.
And the French. Spanish, Czech, Rumanian. Oh and the Swedish.
Ah.
The old, discredited, 'UK is a failure that's why we are dependent upon the EU' mantra that backfired in the June 2016 referendum.
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59 minutes ago, Anna B said:Can somebody tell me why we no longer make British cars in Britain? (Apart from Morgans, serious question.)
We no longer manufacture British cars anymore Anna because of global political and economic trading blocs we signed up to, such as the EU, bringing in rules that forbid state aid of industry. Distorts the markets.
But moving labour from poorer parts of the EU to richer parts to keep down labour costs does NOT distort markets - according to the Mickey mouse European kangaroo Court of Justice.
You couldn't make it up. The entire idea behind the EU is to distort markets in favour of business.
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1 hour ago, Pettytom said:Adequate food though.
Its not much of an aspiration.
Adequate food is a wonderful aspiration for a happy, healthy population.
The people of the Socialist Republic were healthier than many people in the West.
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11 hours ago, Pettytom said:Adequate food.
There will be adequate food.
I was in Czechoslovakia in the early 80s. They were anti-capitalist and had “adequate food”.
There was much wisdom in the former Socialist Republic, sadly now lost.
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The June 2016 EU referendum was the biggest anti-capitalist vote in UK history, if not the West.
No wonder those who voted Leave were subjected to such hatred and abuse by the capitalist establishment and it's supporters.
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It is inevitable that big business will seek to punish UK voters for exercising their democratic right to seek to disentangle their nation from the squid like economic tentacles of the EU.
For the EU, with its four freedoms for business, is primarily a device to maximise profit for the few, at the expense of the many. This means the EU's main purpose is to protect the interests of business over the interests of people.
Big business is well aware that the Brexit vote was in fact a vote against multi-national business and capitalism.
They hate that we voted to minimise their profits and will seek revenge.
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3 hours ago, Pettytom said:The country was perfectly successful as it was, until the crazy gang took over and pursued their vision of us as a tax haven.
"The country was perfectly successful as it was"?
Tell that to the millions of poorly paid workers and the underclass failed by our EU membership. No EU privilege for them.
Having to visit food banks to survive. No chance of affordable, decent social housing. Competing for jobs with an EU underclass.
Your statement reeks of an out of touch affluent middle-class mindset that believes everybody enjoys the same privilege as yourself.
The referendum result revealed that many Remainers simply didn't have a clue about the real conditions of life for many of their fellow citizens.
And many still don't.
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The Leave vote was, in reality, a revolt against the rich. We took on the might of the global capitalist establishment, ducking and diving about with all sorts being flung at us.
We didn't do it because we wanted the status quo. We wanted change. We knew it wouldn't be easy. We knew it would be worth it.
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25 minutes ago, Baron99 said:I'll not let you wait until 31st Dec.
I voted 'Leave' along with 17,410,741 others.
I am proud to have voted Leave too. Against all the odds, plucky little Leave took on the massed forces of the global capitalist Remain establishment.
And won.
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2 hours ago, tinfoilhat said:So i get a mate in Dublin to import stuff to Europe, drive over the non existant border and send me stuff tariff free.
Nice.
Any action that undermines the integrity of Thatcher's Single Market should be approved of and pursued vigorously.
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55 minutes ago, L00b said:Are you so sure that they understand the issue enough, to be avoiding it so studiously?
I'm not convinced.
There is an agreement predating the EU by about fifty years allowing free movement across the UK and Ireland. The Common Travel Area arrangement began in 1922 and is not dependent upon either Irish or UK membership of the EU.
The Irish hard border ‘problem’ is entirely an EU construct. Nobody wants a hard border except the EU - to protect profits for business. Profits before people - it's the EU way.
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26 minutes ago, Magilla said:How can the UK protect it's IM, if goods are allowed to flow in freely from another market unchecked?
How does the UK square having no border/customs with WTO MFN rules?
Who is going to impose a hard border on Ireland?
Certainly not the British. They are the very last nation on earth that could erect a hard border on Ireland.
So who is going to do it? The Irish Republic, puppets of their EU masters?
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5 minutes ago, Pettytom said:TINA.
That’s what you leavers voted for.
The British will not erect a hard border.
Only the EU can impose a hard border, which will be torn down.
Irish Republicans and the British public united in their desire for No Hard Border in Ireland.
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6 hours ago, Magilla said:The British would have no choice.
How can the UK protect it's IM if goods are allowed to flow in freely from another market unchecked?
The British will not erect a hard border on the island of Ireland.
If the EU imposes a hard border it will bring back the long war.
No hard border in Ireland! Stuff Maggie's Single Market!
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4 minutes ago, Magilla said:Brexit means there has to be a border, why don't you tell us where you thought it was going to be?
The reality, leavers are bitter because the Northern Ireland situation highlights just how clueless they are and how they really never had the remotest clue what they were voting for.
There is no misinterpretation. Boris lied and then realised his lies were about to go down in a ball of flames.
The IM bill makes it impossible to ensure the integrity of the IM. A complete own goal.
There will be no hard border in Ireland.
The British are not going to impose a hard border.
We will see if the EU erects a hard border to protect the profits of Thatcher's Single Market.
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8 hours ago, whiteowl said:A lot has been said over the last 4 years about free trade agreements with Australia and New Zealand (I assume as some throwback to empire or commonwealth or something).
I see they've joined the RCEP trading bloc today - I wonder what effect that will have on the above.
Does the RCEP have its own currency, flag, anthem, four freedoms for business, common agricultural policy, parliament, council, court, five presidents, commissioners, bank, political integration and geographical expansionist agenda of the explicitly capitalist EU?
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"It is my view that when we rejoin the European Union we should also join the Euro. Probably we won’t be able to rejoin on any other terms anyway. Next time we can’t be ‘half in, half out’. That’s why we made such a mess of it last time, and are suffering so badly now"
Andrew Adonis on Twitter: posted 9:34 AM · Nov 13, 2020·Twitter for iPhone.
Supporting the explicitly capitalist neo Liberal EU, Andrew Adonis helped the second referendum campaign seize control of the Labour party before the last election and throw Corbynism and people who had voted Labour 'forever and a day' under a bus. For voting Leave in the referendum these Labour voters were criticised, harassed, accused of being fascist. And they were told not to vote Labour.
Andrew Adonis in a 2018 LBC radio phone interview, even said that those who were pro-Brexit should not vote Labour because the party was going to stop Britain leaving the EU.
A leading campaigner for a People's Vote second referendum, Adonis helped lose Labour the general election and even now advocates rejoining the EU at a much deeper level. These people have learned nothing about why the working class are turning away from the party.
“What’s happened in America is really quite interesting because so many of the same people who are having a go, understandably, at Donald Trump are exactly the same people who wanted to ignore a vote in this country. And they fail to see the hypocrisy, and I can’t get my head around it." - Laura Smith, former Labour party MP.
https://morningstaronline.co.uk/article/f/interview-rebuilding-labour-socialism-brexit-and-democracy
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Labour should apologise for Brexit policy, say key Corbyn allies
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-54896340
"Two key members of Jeremy Corbyn's shadow cabinet have called for the party to issue a '"full throated apology" for its stance on Brexit. Ex-party chairman Ian Lavery and former elections chief Jon Trickett say backing a second referendum at last year's election destroyed trust."
Labour could and should have won last year's general election if it had only stuck to the Jeremy Corbyn life long view on the EU - that we should Leave. Labour has traditionally been an anti-EU party, until the affluent middle-class purged it of the majority of its working class members under Tony Blair.
It's stance last year on Brexit was horrific - cancelling the votes of millions of working class people , including the votes of many Labour supporters. Keir Starmer, an out of touch posh boy, was behind this policy and should apologise to voters for his position of holding a second EU referendum because the middle class members in his party didn't like the result of the June 2016 vote.
The reason the Tories won the election was because of their 'Get Brexit Done' policy.
Labour lost because the Remain fanatics in the party made Leave voters think they couldn't trust it to deliver the democratic outcome of the referendum.
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6 hours ago, melthebell said:so much for sovereignty (maybe brextremists will finally see full sovereignty doesnt exist in a global world, when you need to trade to keep living standards the same)
We can, and will, still trade with our global partners.
We just won't be in a political and economic union with them.
It's called progress.
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Why do Remainers have so little confidence in the UK to forge it's own destiny?
It's almost as if, to them, the UK is a brand new nation that only came into being in 1973.
It's also telling that the majority of Remainers voted the way they did in the referendum because of a fear of the consequences of Leaving the EU, not because they supported its neo-liberal global capitalist big business political union agenda.
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33 minutes ago, Longcol said:In your dreams - either by a trade agreement where larger countries / blocs hold the best cards - or WTO rules which add costs to goods we import (making prices in the UK higher) or export (making the UK less competitive).
Why do you want to be a part of a very controlling political union in which any influence you may have is diluted due to the sheer number of other weaker participants in the union?
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"We are no longer a great power. We will never be so again. In a world of nearly 8 billion people, well under 1% are British." - Sir John Major.
Oh no! Much wailing and sobbing! We’re not a great power...
What planet do these third rate failed ex-politicians live on? Their concerns and priorities are completely out of touch with the majority of people. "Great power" indeed. As if people are crying into their beer that we are not a "great power" anymore. I say thank goodness we are not a "great power" and that we have firmly kicked into touch that jumped up trading bloc that has very real aspirations to be a "great power" - the EU.
We are just a decent people that wish to live our lives in peace and trade with others under our own rules and regulations.
So let's do this!
2 hours ago, RJRB said:I see you as a quintessential middle of the road voter as you seem to support both the extreme left and extreme right from week to week.
Always interesting though.😁
Thank you.
No matter the strength of the discussion, you are always polite and make very interesting points.
You would make a good Brexiter.
TV licence thread
in General Discussions
Posted · Edited by Car Boot
"TV licence evasion was the most common offence for which females were convicted in 2019. In 2019, 74% of those convicted for TV licence evasion were female. This offence accounted for 30% of all female convictions, compared to 4% of male convictions."
Statistics on Women and the Criminal Justice System 2019.
A Ministry of Justice publication under Section 95 of the Criminal Justice Act 1991.
Published 26 November 2020.
https://www.gov.uk/government/statistics/women-and-the-criminal-justice-system-2019
The BBC continues with its policy of indirect gender discrimination to target women who are massively overrepresented in criminal convictions for BBC TV licence fee evasion.
According to the BBC, it's not discrimination when they practice it - only when others do.
You won't hear about this on BBC news. It's not censorship when the BBC practices it.