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Already got my wind turbine, about as useful as others but looks cool though.

What mess?

Its OK, it gets balance out by Mister M who also does the same to try and put anything Tory in a bad light.

Not allowed to drink alcohol. I edited it to make it easier for you to understand...

I doubt it, several more bottles to go yet!

As we were talking about nurses and the NHS the problems with recruitment started in 2013 with a Labour government that decided all new nurses now needed to go to university and get a degree.

I agree we should do those things but it is not as easy as that. We have overcomplicated the system when it comes to nursing and since 2013 now require nurses to go to University to get a Nursing degree. That severely limits people from thinking about being a Nurse. Before then it was much easier to train to be a nurse. Of those 30,000 vacancies we now have that the NHS boss talked about just over half of them (163,000) have been due to nurses leaving since the Covid-19 panic. That has also been mirrored in Europe as well so its not just unique to the UK. The loss of staff in this instance is not just a result of poor pay so there is something else going on here. Many doctors have left simply because a great deal of them were getting near retirement and because of tax purposes they are taking early retirement. So we need now to train more and also pay them more to retain them in the future. No you are right but the Unions are the ones who draw up the ideas that encourage the workers to strike.

But can you still manage without it.... I think it preferable than posting pictures of your dad.

I think DADDY was being sarcastic! Opps...... he just beat me too it! PS HeHasRisen. Although you have given a list maybe add that its a photo ID that's needed.

No as in order to abolish it people would have to vote first.

How much are they paid then?

It might but its not about luck but business planning which they seem to have lacked badly. Yes they would but they knew beforehand that they did not have access and that's why they are not blaming Brexit. Or simply do your research properly before you start on a major project and then if it cant be done here then do it in the EU.

No, he only supported them so he could get a discount on buying a council house!

No they couldn't get the backing because it was not a viable idea and they should have realised all that in their original business plan. What I am really pointing out is that any new start-up company formed after Brexit must have known the risks it was taking at the time. You also don't try and compete with competition especially one that had plenty of backing with a $350m loan from the European Investment Bank in 2020. To me it seemed a no go from the start and a badly thought out business plan using hype, a BritishVolt name tag, to try and win over punters.

According to that article it states: "It delivered its first batteries last year, has one gigafactory in operation and three in the planning stage, and boasts $55bn of orders from big car manufacturers." All this was what BritishVolt was up against even when it was only in the planning stage and before it even had any building to use. From the BBC article: "The ambitious, but financially troubled, start-up only narrowly avoided collapse at the end of last year after an emergency lifeline was extended by one of its investors, the commodity trading giant Glencore. Last year, Britishvolt asked the government to advance £30m of a promised £100m in support, but was refused as the company had not hit agreed construction milestones to access the funds." "The founders of Britishvolt were trying to create a £4bn facility, from scratch, without the backing of a major manufacturer." Those were the problems they faced. When you start and adventure of this kind it is important to get the funding for it right at least. This company had plenty of ambition but that was all and it failed to get backing for a number of reasons and hardly any of that was due to Brexit.

I agree. The NI rates should be upped with an extra levy in order to increase pay.

Don't think she has ever lived on one and is also quite rich at that!

No one can buy the batteries because the factory that was to be built has not been built and even the government has pulled it potential funding. None of that has anything to do with Brexit. It was an incentive from a dodgy start-up company that had not really thought it through and wanted the government to cough up money for their enterprise. BritishVolt must have known what the situation was beforehand hence relying on government money. A good idea in principal but badly thought out. So BritishVolt would in effect have be competing with an already formed up and running successful company which has had plenty of backing in the EU. Doing that alone was a non starter in the first place. It didn't fail because of Brexit but because of lack of foresight in what it was trying to achieve coupled with lack of funds to achieve it. As said it seems to have been a bit of a scam company in the first place. Also see L00b's post above #5054. Surprisingly he even thinks it is not a direct consequence of Brexit

Oh indeed as its not Brexit related! It seems as though it was a bit of a scam start-up company that was after government funding and from what I have read it didn't have much in the way of collateral in 2020. Sorry to intrude with a guardian article but.... https://www.theguardian.com/business/nils-pratley-on-finance/2023/jan/11/northvolt-v-britishvolt-clarity-v-confusion-in-the-great-electric-car-battery-race

Two lots of good news in the same day, somethings up!

Well I think the UK are doing the right thing here in blocking this: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-64288757

Got the PM from Chekhov yet....

Not if you read about what he is actually proposing. He is wanting to reform it before it gets so far in decline that it does then need a form of private health care. Don't forget, GPs are private contractors anyway.

Its been reported fairly well on the BBC with Laura at the helm an his idea's are not quite as bad as some seem to make out. The main problems he will face in all this come from his own party in convincing them. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-64279654 Quote: "He said he wanted to "lift the burden" on the NHS by considering allowing patients to self-refer to specialists for some conditions like back pain." I think his quote on internal bleeding has also been taken out of context. "If you’ve got internal bleeding and you just want a test, there ought to be a way that doesn’t involve going to see a GP.” One thing I do agree with is that the NHS has to reform in order to survive as it has grown far and above of what it was originally for.

But where though? as I wouldn't want to get the area wrong. You could follow it up with the usual golden shower then. BTW do you get nice letters from your Labour MP thanking you for your help?