Badlittlepup

He did an interview with the Guardian where he said he likes going to Dempsey's. Dempsey's Nothing to do with it being a gay bar, but Dempsey's very much has a reputation of being the sort of place you go to get your hands on dubious things or do dubious things or do dubious, er, people. Or just if you're far too wasted to get in anywhere halfway respectable. It's certainly not the sort of place you would expect an MP to admit they frequent. I bet you wouldn't have caught Cleggy in the bogs in there at 3am on a Friday.

They would have needed to establish that she was on a University organised trip first. Which they might have done by, er, talking to her?

No problem with this at all. In the aftermath of an attack the police need to establish if the attacker was a lone wolf or had accomplices, even those who may have chickened out from their part. That will mean looking at those in the immediate area to establish if they were involved. And if it is an Islamist attack then specifically those in the immediate area who are Muslims. There have been several attacks recently in Europe where attackers or accomplices have remained at large. I don't want the police in dynamic investigations seeking to prevent mass casualties to be stumped by having to interview people they know aren't involved just because someone complains their feelings are hurt. For all we know she could be on a watch list anyway. If she wants to blame someone she should blame the Islamist terrorists who have created the suspicion: not the police trying to keep people safe.

DJ Russke? The grime one?

Heard a guy has now died and it's a murder investigation.

Three stabbings? Blinking heck that's awful. Any reports on injuries? Hope not terror related, assume gangs.

Anybody have anymore info on what's gone off at Barkers Pool? Taped off, huge police presence. Heard that a young person has been beaten and left for dead. If that's the case really hope they recover.

I think a lot of it is Spice now as well as the booze. Seen some people in right states. I feel sorry for them, but they are (deliberately) intimidating and a lot of crime comes with them. It would be nice if the answer was just to put them in rehab but it's not a magic bullet if they don't want to stop. I would support a blanket ban on public drinking except outside licences premises in the city centre.

I suppose you could be right. It might be a meth kitchen or one of the weekly arson attacks on cars might have got a bit more ambitious.

There's a fire in Bethnal Green today. I lived in a flat on the floor below in the same block a while ago. I would bet my right kidney that is a copycat attack and someone trying to get rehoused/compo.

Nobody hurt I hope?

Thanks for the update all.

Up Middlewood Road by precinct heading towards park if anybody is missing them. What should you do in situations like this? Ring the pound?

Any chance of reposting original details of the incident?

I remember the last time a political party gained power by exploiting a knee jerk response following a large fire. Didn't end very well, especially for 6 million Jews.

Oh please no. One of my favourite things about Sheffield is it's lack of hipsters.

I'm aware of the scam in general, some women in Covent Garden used to do it with lucky heather. Never seen the monk before. I thought it was remarkable because he was so intimidating. I was sitting down eating and he loomed over me getting between me and my children in the pram. When he started getting a bit shorty it was not nice to be separated from my children like that, he scared me.

Just a heads up on a new scam in town. A guy dressed up as a Buddhist monk comes up and is really friendly giving you a gold card saying 'lifetime peace' then he tries to give you a bracelet. When you take them he starts demanding payment in the form of 'donations' to build some unspecified temple. He wants like £10-£20 and gets intimidating if you offer a couple of quud. Seen round Orchard Sq, Peace Gardens

No Halibut, you agree with the point they're making so you are also happy to see a tragic death exploited to your own political ends. But if the boot was on the other foot and a death was used to make political capital for an outlook you didn't like you'd be the first to whinge and moan and cry offence. But then I expect nothing less than hypocrisy from you.

Massively distasteful and offensive of them to use a tragic death to make a political point.

Huge plume of black smoke visible over city. Looks like maybe Burngreave area? Not the ski village, further out than that. Anybody know?

It's possible nobody who would tell the police if they knew. Faking or exaggerating illnesses to dodge justice is fairly common. There was a case recently where a man was sent to jail for pretending to be in a coma for at least two years. Medical confidentiality etc can be a barrier to the police. From what I gather from reporting is that in this case there seems to be a strong suspicion that he is exaggerating his condition to try and dodge jail. It's interesting to note that he appears a lot healthier in his police mugshot than he has done when he's been aware cameras are around. He also seems to have suffered a very convenient deterioration since he was arrested. ---------- Post added 27-02-2016 at 19:23 ---------- Oh, but earlier you were telling us that you knew him well enough to give accurate reports on his medical condition. :loopy:

I take it you're a doctor who's examined him then? ---------- Post added 27-02-2016 at 02:00 ---------- I think you'll find PC didn't become a dominant force until the Labour victory in 1997. The idea of a Thatcher government promoting PC ideology is laughable. PC, along with these offences, is something that happened under the last Labour government.

Thought as much. They did admit the kid wasn't his because, well, you could see he wasn't. He obviously thought it was his before he was born though. It was sad though, he'd been brought up by an alcoholic mother and gone the same way. It sounds like the little boy might be adopted. Might actually stand a chance of some sort of life if that happens.

It's not very fair. Just portraying white people as scum. If one of the other groups were portrayed so unremittingly negatively there would be uproar. As far as I can see the producers of this programme want people to think that all the problems in Page Hall are because there are a few horrible nasty scummy white people who can't cope with all the wonderful noble migrants. I feel sorry for the old white lady. The things she's saying about resentment and feeling driven out seem much worse than they are, because they've underplayed the problems with the new residents so much it seems totally over the top and unjustified. But when you actually know more about the problems in the area you know she's actually being quite restrained and what she's saying is quite fair. They tried to downplay the connection of the fall in property prices by saying it was 'like many areas of the country' with falling prices. But it's specifically to do with problems in that area. Very, very unfair portrayal. ---------- Post added 24-02-2016 at 22:46 ---------- Monkey's back on the p*** isn't he? Sure I saw him drunk somewhere around Xmas. Hope it was a brief fall off the wagon.