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Hi, My mother won a scholarship to Notre Dame. She was there until 1952 I think, then was forced to leave and find a job because of awful poverty in those days, well for miners families anyway. My mothers name was Eileen May Jones from Manvers Road, Beighton. The head teacher at the time was Sister Monica. Apparently she refused to let my mother leave school, so while everyone was enjoying the Christmas parties in '52 she had to collect all her things and sneak out. She desperately wishes she's been able to say goodbye to her friends there. ( I think this is so sad, it's hard to imagin isn't it):sad: She says she doesn't regret leaving, because the family lived in such poverty then that another wage was so important. Funny, Britain seems to be heading back to those times rather quickly.

Does anyone know the whereabouts of Jacqueline and Jennifer starsmore from the old Drapers -1940's I expect.

Did Uncle Timmy know Pat, Frank and John (Stan) Jones, they worked at Brookhouse. Pat and Frank were injured in '58 in the accident.

Hi Valjones, we must be related!! Nice to meet you, I'm Christine. I haven't seen Bryan since I was a young teenager (54 now) and never met Tina. I lived in Doncaster for a couple of years when I was 16 (love the place) but haven't been back since, its gotten far too big. I've moved around a lot, Ireland, Wales and so on, you know what its like, time moves fast, kids, work and responsibilities tend to take up every second. I didn't know your dad at all, although my older sister did as she stayed up in Yorkshire. Perhaps you know her? What a way to have to meet relatives! Say Hi to Bryan and Tina. I think Bryan rang my mother a year or so age, really pleased she was. Thinks she misses the old home lands a lot.

Hi June, My uncles worked at Brookhouse, Frank, Pat and Stan (John) Jones. Frank and Pat were injured in the 'accident' in 1958. Sadly both have died now. ---------- Post added 02-01-2013 at 14:32 ---------- Dave Edmunds from Wales (fab) did a song with Stray Cats but they're an 80's band so it might have been Gray Cata :) ---------- Post added 02-01-2013 at 14:44 ---------- Was Starsmore a drapers? I think the owners had 2 girls who my mother used to take to school. Was there a shop owned by Jones at the top of Manvers Road and a chippy or two and a Jones grocers next to Starsmore. I think my mother lived across the road or next door to Starsmore. Her family were Jones' as well. My mother is Eileen. She went to Catholic school when she was 10 yrs old and won a scholership to Notre Dam grammer school. Would be so nice to find someone who remembers her family. ---------- Post added 02-01-2013 at 14:52 ---------- Do you know anything about Frank, Pat and Stan (John) Jones who worked at Brookhouse, Frank and Pat were in the accident in '58. They were the Jones family from Manvers Road and lived next to or opp Starsmore shop? Thanks. ---------- Post added 02-01-2013 at 15:07 ---------- Hi B, Sorry if I've replied already, memory going fast (down the pan!) My Uncles worked at Brookhouse and would be nearing your dads age if they were alive. Their names were Frank, Pat and Stan (John) Jones; Frank and Pat were in the accident in 1958. My mum is their sister, they lived on Manvers Road, Beighton. ---------- Post added 02-01-2013 at 15:17 ---------- Hi Fredie, Do you or your folks remember the Jones family who lived next to or opp Starsmore shop? My grandad was Tom Jones and my mum is Eileen. She went to local schools until 10yrs and then went to Catholic school before winning a place at Notre Dam grammer school. I was born in '58 so my mother must have been married around 4-5 yrs then. She married Denys Barfield from Woodhouse. She had several brothers and a sister Gwen. Her brothers Frank and Pat were injured in Brookouse accident in '58. Stan (John) should have been in the cage as well but was late for work. After the accident one of the brothers started his own fruit and veg van/lorry? and the other, who could hardly walk, worked at a brick factory where he died sat at his bench. I'm trying so hard to find people she knew or who know her but sadly not much luck - think my mother is about 77 yr old now. Thanks.

;) I got it wrong again, It was Stan Walker not Walters. He worked at Woodhouse Coop when my mother did, think he was the supervisor and lived on Manvers Road. Its a bit hard getting all the bits sorted, I'm in Wales, my mother is in the South of Eng and between brief (confused, me) phonecalls and letters, bits of paper and rushed scribbles.... Sorry people and thanks for hanging in there, you're all stars! Happy New Year as well. :

Thanks for the replies, tho I was thinking of Tups plays going back to 1940's - 1960's. Interesting that they ae still happening. I found a clip on youtube of Derby tup 9only one there) but me mother says its not really the same. She's thinking back to the old days when miners did 'em.

Hi, did you know my mum, Eileen (Barfield, after she got married). She used to go to Eckington a lot. Sorry, you wouldn't know her, but your dad/parents might. Thanks for the reply. ---------- Post added 22-12-2012 at 18:48 ---------- Did your dad know Pat and Frank (Stans brothers) as well. Stan worked at Brookhouse with them years ago.

My Uncle (mums brother) is Stan Jones (really John Jones) and lives at John Street in Eckington, has done for donkeys years. He used to be a miner, but when the Pit shut he started working with Mentally handicapped. His brothers Pat and Frank Jones were injured in the Brookhouse Colliery disaster in 1958. My mum is called Eileen.

My mum, Eileen Jones worked at Woodhouse co-op in those days. She was from Beighton. Believe that Dave Berry (Dave Grundy) bloke used to call in the shop then as well, as did his mother and sister, called Julie, who was in a wheelchair. ---------- Post added 22-12-2012 at 17:05 ---------- Yes that's him. I just rang my mother and asked her and she said Brian married a lovely girl called Tina, think they have 2 boys, but not sure. One works in a hospital. Brian rang me mother last year, she said, really cheered her up. I liked Brian and Roy, but I've not seen them since I was a kid- from what I can remember he (Brian) wasn't much older than me, few years that's all. Sounds terrible doesn't it, not having seen family for so many years. I just moved a lot, incl 6 (horrid) years in Ireland and the last twenty plus in Wales, poor old Yorkshire seems so far away. I used to visit my uncle Stan in Eckington and others in Aston regularly, but that was easy driving, a couple of miles off the moterway and not much chance of getting lost!! Say Hi to Brian:wave: - can't call him 'uncle' he's not old enough. ---------- Post added 22-12-2012 at 17:07 ---------- I think my gran lived at Corwen Place. Granny Dunk, Mertyl, married to Bill, sweet, sweet man. ---------- Post added 22-12-2012 at 17:48 ---------- Is your dad called stan? My mum used to work with a Stan Walters at Woodhouse co-op. He lived next to my gran at Corwen Place. ---------- Post added 22-12-2012 at 17:50 ---------- My gran used to work there a LONG time ago. She was called Mertyl Dunk, often called 'fag ash lil'.

Thanks Derrek, It's really interesting to someone who doesn't know what it was all about. My mum briefly (very) mentioned about Tups plays and miners -she loved it. What are/is 'mummers' then? Thanks for your time.

Hi Derrek, Were the 'mummers' the groups of miners who used to perform the 'tups' ? Are there different 'tups' songs? I assume the tup is a sheep or ram. I found a site that had old recordings of these plays but they aren't in business any more. I believe the word (term??) mummers comes from scotland. My mother used to love watching tups plays, I suppose it was a big part of mining community life. Were you a miner? Sad that our pits have all but closed down. Don't suppose you are going to put one of your plays on youtube?

Victormh (Gary in Malaya) My great aunt Ruth came from swallownest. She was married to Roman (Ron) Kohut and lived on King Street at the back of the school. They had a son Steven who would have been born around the time you were 16 yrs old I think. Both Ruth and husband used to work at a fire lighter factory and later Sutherlands Spread factory. My mother is still in touch with Roman, think Ruth died a while ago. My mother actually got married in 1955 NOT 1947, she was only 4 yrs old then! She remembers Fanthropes (?) bakery in Beighton, but no others. She didn't move until 1960 and had three kids by then. She went to Grammer school, but the family were very poor and she remembers having no shoes to wear and getting called names by some because clothes were always hand me downs. At grammer school she was friendly with a Scottish lass from the area, this family were fairly well off and my mum says she remembers not being able to understand her friends mum because of the thick accent, but very nice family. ---------- Post added 22-12-2012 at 18:56 ---------- My mum lived at Manvers road in Beighton (I was born in 1958) Starsmores shop was across the road from her parents house.The owners of the shop had twin girls, Jennifer and Jackie, my mum (Eileen Jones) used to take them to school. She was friendly with the Chattaways at No 26 Manvers road, or Barbara anyway. They had a Jimmy, Susan and Ronnie. ---------- Post added 22-12-2012 at 19:19 ---------- Hi Bocadillio, Does your dad remember Pat, Frank and Stan Jones from Brookhouse?

I found with my kids that bullying usually happened only when the bully had a gang to back them up. They were right tossers when standing alone -course the 'gang' were there out of fear not friendship, no-one wanted to be the next victim. My oldest son is now 6ft 7in and the 14 yr old is almost 6ft 2 and brown belt in Karate. My oldest son still gets the crap, bullies now want to push their luck because he's so tall, but now they never try it without thug back-up. Dunno if we should feel sorry for bullies or just want them locked up. A good dose of their own medicine does seem to cure them tho, especially if dished out in front of their 'gang'. Glad you gave em what for! ---------- Post added 10-12-2012 at 13:56 ---------- [are you gay ? that was the way things were no wonder the kids are like they are nanny state gone mad] Report Post Reply With Quote Things may have been like that Davebrmm, but it doesn't mean it was right and never will. No adult should have that kind of power over defenceless kids. Nothing to do with being 'gay' either. How many kids did badly at school because of teachers like this? Hard to concentrate on lessons when you're terrified. My father was a psycho bas*ard and we could get a good beating just for speaking without permission (and I mean a good beating) - many others lived similar lives in those days, does not mean it was right or normal. If you were able to cope with that kind of environment good for you, many of us were not. I don't think you need be insulting just because someone else couldn't cope -that is a form of bullying.

Hi Victormh, Thanks for the reply and words -will post to my mum.. Here's a youtube of Darby tup: My brother was born in Malaya, we lived there while my father was in the Army, got great photos. I was only 6-7 yrs old, but remember we had a gardener called Mutu (spelling) who was a better father to us 6 kids than the real one. Loved life over there.:)