[erebus]

How can money vanish into thin air....well if one makes a bet, and it fails the money vanishes. A bet can be like buying a new car, and as one drives it out of the showroom the value of the car goes down, so money vanishes, and with a new car the second one pays for it the value drops. So money can vanish like magic.

Well so the propaganda regarding the euro goes on and on, as they blame this country and that, which is the point, to mislead people into thinking in a certain way, and blaming, the GREEKS AND OTEHR PIGS. Propaganda is a nice word for lies. Its not the Greeks or the other so called lazy countries, its the banks that made bets, loaned and invested, to make money, out of the money they have, and like money vanishing, money can be created like magic out of money, while producing absolutely nothing at all..

Who plays these games, well its not the unemployed, who are the scapegoat. The stupid are encouraged to hate the unemployed and other scroungers, but never the very rich bankers. Bankers scheme all the time to create products that are supposed to work like magic, making money increase in value, while producing bu*ger all in the process. Making money out of thin air. So its again magic to those without a PhD in maths, in other words ordinary people. The banks devise products so complex and scientifically impressive that to fail to make money out of thin air is scientifically and mathematically almost impossible, and those with greed are intoxicated by the potential of the financial gain, as greed blinds all, and the more complex the swindle the more the suckers buy. Well the best brains in the world are employed by the banks, so the top scientists, and such instead of helping humanity progress in solving real problems, help the banks to produce fraudulent products, to swindle ordinary people out of their hard earned cash.

They never get fined as there is a bond between politicians and these corporate interests that ties them. So the banks are in control, they have made their bets, and all banks certainly in the western world are BUST. You got it BANKRUPT,

How can money vanish into thin air....well if one makes a bet, and it fails, the money vanishes. A bet can be like buying a new car, and as one drives it out of the showroom the value of the car goes down, so money vanishes, and with a new car the second one pays for it the value drops. So money can vanish.

Well so the propaganda regarding the euro goes on and on, as they blame this country and that, which is the point, to mislead people into thinking a certain way, and blaming, the GREEKS AND OTEHR PIGS. Propaganda is a nice word for lies. Its not the Greeks or the other so called lazy countries, its the banks that made bets, schemed, loaned and invested money to make money. So money can both vanish and appear to multiply like magic, out of money.

Who plays these games, well its not the unemployed, who are the scapegoats the stupid are encouraged to hate, but the very rich bankers. Bankers scheme all the time to create products that are suppose to work like magic, making money increase in value, while producing bu*ger all in the process. So its again magic to those without a PhD in maths. They devise products so complex and scientifically impressive that not make money out of thin air is almost impossible, and those with greed in mind, are intoxicated by the potential of the financial gain, as greed blinds all, and the more complex the swindle the more the suckers buy. Well the best brains in the world are employed by the banks, so the top scientists, and such instead of helping humanity progress, help the banks to produce fraudulent products, to swindle ordinary people out of their hard earned cash, and earn bonuses in a year that most will never earn in a lifetime..

These sophisticate swindlers never get fined as there is a bond between al politicians in al countries, and these corporate interests that ties them at the hip. So the banks are in control, they have made their bets, and all banks certainly in the western world are BUST. They do not have the cash to cover what the ordinary people have in their accounts.. You got it….. bust, so if everyone wanted their money then Northern Rock was nothing compared to the reality today. How does one know they are bust, you might ask? Well quantitative easing is a posh term for printing money, making money out of nothing, to fill the empty vaults, which we call debt, but you call “ready cash”, because that is what paper money is to you.

So we are printing money like magic, as the banks are bust and if one keeps up the front, all is well while in reality more and more debt is created. This debt can never be paid, hence almost zero interest rate for banks, as otherwise they would go bust immediately. Why are the banks bust, well one reason is because they backed massive borrowing on speculative building, which the plebs were to pay inflated prices for, through money borrowed at the banks that loaned the money to the speculators to begin with. Are you still with me. It’s a circular game with ordinary people as the patsies/suckers.

Well they sold houses, flats offices to anyone that could scratch their name on paper, regardless that many could never afford it, but were sold the lie by expert swindlers so they could all live happily ever after. They, the people just want a simple life, and the bank swindlers used clever marketing and other deeply researched psychological tricks to fool everyone they could make that dreams possible, while creaming off their fees and commission. Fees and commission are the point not the house, flat or whatever.

So a house worth 100K were given away like chicken feed. But then some people began to find ordinary stuff, bills and food were just going up and up, or has the fuel, oil and power hikes as well as food not been noticed by people here. So people could not keep it all up, and financial impotence started to happen.

So many struggling, and with so many properties to sell, and with so much investment/bets by the banks in the air, it all fell apart like a house of cards. The banks devised the scam, just like they chopped , diced the investments up and sold them to pension funds and such. So pensions will soon also fail to deliver, or keep up with demand. It was always a scam, but on a massive scale. If you lie… lie big time, as really big lies are believed, as they are too big to think they were a scam that would fail.

So stop prattling on about the euro, its the sodding banks that are bust, and bust in the UK too. If they cannot print money fast enough the whole thing, euro, pound, dollar goes tits up, as all are crisscrossed in various sorts of bets. (financial products) When one falls, all fall, but the blame will be on who falls first, as in country, which is the point, of the propaganda, to blame a country, or politicians, people, so ordinary people to not realise it was and is the banks all along.

So please grow up and realise you are being fooled by the banks through the media, and I mean the whole media, as he who has the money calls the tune, that others dance to. The media relies on advertising, and the banks control the corporate world, who supply the money that fuels the media, that fools you.

I don't know why I bother no one will get it anyway!

[peterdo]

WOW! Glad you got that off your chest.

[Mecky]

You only just realised all this?

[emperor_ming]

Originally Posted by peterdo

WOW! Glad you got that off your chest.

You bothered to read all that?

[erebus]

If you read the posts on the euro, and the rest of the associated bollo*ks how the great unwashed have been taught to see the world in a narrow, and easy to understand way. What might once have been curious minds have been tunrned into the biggots they are now proud to be, as ignortance can make the most stupid cock-sure.

I thought it about time to inform them in spoon sized chunks, easy to understand that ther is a bigger picture, one they are obviously unaware of.

Just read the nonsense they thnk they understand on the eoro, unemployment, the unemployed, scroungers and the rest they wallow in. It is amazing to me they actually can read and write, but something happened, and they accept authority and what they are told in tabloid form, as the truth, and only truth. They have no idea they are spouting other people's views claiming them as their own, the headless or brainless chicken brigade should be on the stage so everyone can laugh at such clowns.

[Michael_W]

Everyone knows the problem but not the solution

[chem1st]

Freigeld and 0 unemployment in 3 months, like Worgl did in the great depression.

(Assuming we also get rid of the 100%+ effective income taxes)

[Rich]

People who spend their pathetic lives bitching about "scroungers" seriously need to shut up IMO, contrary to the pointless drivel printed in the Daily Fail, not everyone on benefits is on the scrounge.

[ukdobby]

Originally Posted by Rich

People who spend their pathetic lives bitching about "scroungers" seriously need to shut up IMO, contrary to the pointless drivel printed in the Daily Fail, not everyone on benefits is on the scrounge.

They are......

[Jim Graham]

Are you Gordon Brown in disguise? So it's all the bankers fault is it? So the greedy and stupid people who thought house prices could only go up, the light touch regulators who looked the other way after nodding through take over deals with 100% borrowed money and no due diligence and politicians who knighted the bankers and couldn't live without their tax contributions have nothing to do with it? Nice try. I am sure there are lots out there who need to believe you, including Brown and Balls, because they can't take responsibility for their own actions. But your argument is rubbish. Banks were allowed to act as they did by politicians eager to claim credit for the boom and desperate to spend the tax revenues the banks offered. Politicians and regulators could have stopped the boom in a heartbeat but they chose not to.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by ukdobby

They are......

No they aren't.

Put down that copy of the Fail and get into the real world mate.

[Badlittlepup]

Bit rich for somebody who writes 'ect' to label other people stupid but there you go.

[Badlittlepup]

Originally Posted by Rich

No they aren't.

Put down that copy of the Fail and get into the real world mate.

No you're not Rich, you're on benefits because you're genuinely unemployable. Fair play to you mate, I don't want to see you starve.

[Mecky]

Originally Posted by Jim Graham

Are you Gordon Brown in disguise? So it's all the bankers fault is it? So the greedy and stupid people who thought house prices could only go up, the light touch regulators who looked the other way after nodding through take over deals with 100% borrowed money and no due diligence and politicians who knighted the bankers and couldn't live without their tax contributions have nothing to do with it? Nice try. I am sure there are lots out there who need to believe you, including Brown and Balls, because they can't take responsibility for their own actions. But your argument is rubbish. Banks were allowed to act as they did by politicians eager to claim credit for the boom and desperate to spend the tax revenues the banks offered. Politicians and regulators could have stopped the boom in a heartbeat but they chose not to.

I can't type for yawning

[Jim Graham]

Originally Posted by Mecky

I can't type for yawning

Another quality post. Thanks for taking the time out of your busy day.

[Happ Hazzard]

Originally Posted by Rich

No they aren't.

Put down that copy of the Fail and get into the real world mate.

Are you on benefits?

[Rich]

Originally Posted by Happ Hazzard

Are you on benefits?

Yes, and before you or anyone else starts, I am entitled to every penny.

[poppins]

Originally Posted by Happ Hazzard

Are you on benefits?

I
At least he's always admitted it, other on here don't! Also he wouldn't starve, he lives with his parents.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by poppins

I
At least he's always admitted it, other on here don't! Also he wouldn't starve, he lives with his parents.

I don't actually.

I moved out in August 2006.

[Nimrod]

Originally Posted by Rich

Yes, and before you or anyone else starts, I am entitled to every penny.

Dont let 'em wind you up mate.....