Time to move on the players.

Robbie Loving · 27-05-2012, 19:55

With a number of high earners out of contract this summer, it's time to sort out our ridiculously wage bill.

Simmo
Cresswell
Williamson
Beattie
Taylor
Ertl
McDonald

Out of those, I'd actually keep.....

McDonald - at whatever cost.
Cresswell - if he accepted a wage lower than 3k per week.
Simmo - Same as Cresswell.
Williamson - If he is willing to accept a reasonable wage.
Beattie - if he agreed to pay as you play.

Others not out of contract, I feel we need to move on....

Monty - High earner and no longer part of the Blades way.
Quinn - Wages aren't sustainable.
Porter - Not good enough.
Williams - I feel his best years have packed up and gone to Spain to sun bathe

There's a few fringe players who are give or take whether they should stay. These players wages aren't a 'concern'.

McAllister
Philliskirk
Howard
Tonne
Conneely
Harriot (who I believe is out of contract)

We should look to hold on to Maguire and Lowton, we should be looking to reject bids for these (dependent on the bid of course).

For those that I haven't mentioned, I'm happy for them to stay.

missymoo73 · 27-05-2012, 19:59

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Originally Posted by Robbie Loving

With a number of high earners out of contract this summer, it's time to sort out our ridiculously wage bill.

Simmo
Cresswell
Williamson
Beattie
Taylor
Ertl
McDonald

Out of those, I'd actually keep.....

McDonald - at whatever cost.
Cresswell - if he accepted a wage lower than 3k per week.
Simmo - Same as Cresswell.
Williamson - If he is willing to accept a reasonable wage.
Beattie - if he agreed to pay as you play.

Others not out of contract, I feel we need to move on....

Monty - High earner and no longer part of the Blades way.
Quinn - Wages aren't sustainable.
Porter - Not good enough.
Williams - I feel his best years have packed up and gone to Spain to sun bathe

There's a few fringe players who are give or take whether they should stay. These players wages aren't a 'concern'.

McAllister
Philliskirk
Howard
Tonne
Conneely
Harriot (who I believe is out of contract)

We should look to hold on to Maguire and Lowton, we should be looking to reject bids for these (dependent on the bid of course).

For those that I haven't mentioned, I'm happy for them to stay.

Simmo and Beattie would go for me too - Simmo as he can save unbelievable one minute and then have a nightmare game - we need more consistency.

Agree with Lowton and Maguire - he does make me laugh though as he looks knackered after first five minutes - played well yesterday I thought

CorkerSWFC · 27-05-2012, 20:03

Didn't think much to your captain is it Doyle, he's simply no where near good enough from what I have seen of him this season...

HeadingNorth · 27-05-2012, 20:05

It would look awfully callous, getting rid of the goalkeeper who saved three out of five penalties just because your own penalty-takers were too incompetent to score three of their own.

Robbie Loving · 27-05-2012, 20:08

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Originally Posted by HeadingNorth

It would look awfully callous, getting rid of the goalkeeper who saved three out of five penalties just because your own penalty-takers were too incompetent to score three of their own.

If we decided not to offer him a new contract, it wouldn't be because of a solitary game, that would just be stupid.

Robbie Loving · 27-05-2012, 20:09

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Originally Posted by CorkerSWFC

Didn't think much to your captain is it Doyle, he's simply no where near good enough from what I have seen of him this season...

Doyle has had a cracking season.
He doesn't work well at the side of Monty though, and again it happened yesterday.
For me, he stays, I believe his wages are sustainable. Good for this level, a good engine.... ticks all the right boxes.

speedy69 · 27-05-2012, 20:13

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Originally Posted by Robbie Loving

With a number of high earners out of contract this summer, it's time to sort out our ridiculously wage bill.

Simmo
Cresswell
Williamson
Beattie
Taylor
Ertl
McDonald

Out of those, I'd actually keep.....

McDonald - at whatever cost.
Cresswell - if he accepted a wage lower than 3k per week.
Simmo - Same as Cresswell.
Williamson - If he is willing to accept a reasonable wage.
Beattie - if he agreed to pay as you play.
Others not out of contract, I feel we need to move on....

Monty - High earner and no longer part of the Blades way.
Quinn - Wages aren't sustainable.
Porter - Not good enough.
Williams - I feel his best years have packed up and gone to Spain to sun bathe

There's a few fringe players who are give or take whether they should stay. These players wages aren't a 'concern'.

McAllister
Philliskirk
Howard
Tonne
Conneely
Harriot (who I believe is out of contract)

We should look to hold on to Maguire and Lowton, we should be looking to reject bids for these (dependent on the bid of course).

For those that I haven't mentioned, I'm happy for them to stay.

I thought Beattie was already 'Pay as you play'

sheff71 · 27-05-2012, 20:14

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robbie Loving

With a number of high earners out of contract this summer, it's time to sort out our ridiculously wage bill.

Simmo
Cresswell
Williamson
Beattie
Taylor
Ertl
McDonald

Out of those, I'd actually keep.....

McDonald - at whatever cost.
Cresswell - if he accepted a wage lower than 3k per week.
Simmo - Same as Cresswell.
Williamson - If he is willing to accept a reasonable wage.
Beattie - if he agreed to pay as you play.

Others not out of contract, I feel we need to move on....

Monty - High earner and no longer part of the Blades way.
Quinn - Wages aren't sustainable.
Porter - Not good enough.
Williams - I feel his best years have packed up and gone to Spain to sun bathe

There's a few fringe players who are give or take whether they should stay. These players wages aren't a 'concern'.

McAllister
Philliskirk
Howard
Tonne
Conneely
Harriot (who I believe is out of contract)

We should look to hold on to Maguire and Lowton, we should be looking to reject bids for these (dependent on the bid of course).

For those that I haven't mentioned, I'm happy for them to stay.

With Simmo, it's time to let George Long have a run at it, so i'd let him move on (unless he was happy to be on the bench at a reasonable wage).

If they can keep McDonald they have to - even if it means giving him a chunk of what they were paying Ched - but in all likelihood someone at a higher level will come in and make him a better offer.

I'd like Williamson to stay (especially if Macca goes), at most we only want one of Beattie, Porter and Cresswell (probably Cresswell as he offers more)... Ertl and Taylor can go - i'd like LJF to stay if fit, and ideally keep both Lowton and Maguire, barring ridiculous bids. Those two with Collins and LJF would form probably the strongest defence in the division, and allow DW to concentrate on bringing in a pacy striker or two who can finish...

Should be an interesting summer...

sheff71 · 27-05-2012, 20:19

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Originally Posted by CorkerSWFC

Didn't think much to your captain is it Doyle, he's simply no where near good enough from what I have seen of him this season...

Doyle's a very good player at this level - on the games you've probably seen him in and not do well (at S6 and yesterday) he's had Monty alongside, and as most blades on here have said, it should only be one or the other. I'd be happy to see Doyle back again as captain next season...

Robbie Loving · 27-05-2012, 20:24

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Originally Posted by speedy69

I thought Beattie was already 'Pay as you play'

I am not saying he isn't (I have no idea either way), I'm saying, going forward - unless he agreed to pay as you play, I'd move him on.

CorkerSWFC · 27-05-2012, 20:25

On the Doyle situation I think he needs someone with a bit of invention at the side of him, Monty and Mc'Donald don't really strike me as players who can unlock a defence.
Maybe that's why he has looked poor when I have seen him...

Robbie Loving · 27-05-2012, 20:26

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Originally Posted by CorkerSWFC

On the Doyle situation I think he needs someone with a bit of invention at the side of him, Monty and Mc'Donald don't really strike me as players who can unlock a defence.

McDonald and Doyle in the middle, in this league is excellent.
You won't find many better midfield partnerships at this level..

CorkerSWFC · 27-05-2012, 20:28

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Originally Posted by Robbie Loving

McDonald and Doyle in the middle, in this league is excellent.
You won't find many better midfield partnerships at this level..

I'm not too sure about that m8, Mc'Donald and Doyle look similar players to me.

SgtDave · 27-05-2012, 20:30

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Originally Posted by speedy69

I thought Beattie was already 'Pay as you play'

Would rather change the arrangement to BT paying us to let him play.

Bypassblade · 27-05-2012, 20:32

Agree with most comments,

Monty is the complete player though;

He can't shoot, can't pass, can't dribble, couldn't score in a brothel with a fiver in his ear. I am one who can never understand how he got so many games, but also how he got ANY games sorry.

United have got to cut their cloth accordingly, we've been low before & come back I still remember the 4th with much fondness. Did not like fact we were there but it was one hell of a great season, that c

annot be denied.

sheff71 · 27-05-2012, 20:46

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Originally Posted by CorkerSWFC

I'm not too sure about that m8, Mc'Donald and Doyle look similar players to me.

That's a bit like saying JOC and Chris Waddle are similar players

McDonald is one of the most talented players in L1 (if he stays!), his loss yesterday was the main reason we appeared to be playing for pens!

Bladesman · 28-05-2012, 00:35

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Originally Posted by Bypassblade

Agree with most comments,

Monty is the complete player though;

He can't shoot, can't pass, can't dribble, couldn't score in a brothel with a fiver in his ear. I am one who can never understand how he got so many games, but also how he got ANY games sorry.

United have got to cut their cloth accordingly, we've been low before & come back I still remember the 4th with much fondness. Did not like fact we were there but it was one hell of a great season, that c

annot be denied.

Monty has to go if anyone would actually buy him. A loan move is the best we seem to be able to get for him.

Simmo I would keep on a lower wage perhaps.
Beattie possibly stay
Macca has to stay
Willo has to stay
Quinn has to stay but I think someone will buy him
McAllister is worth keeping I think

As for the others mentioned they can go.

chalga · 28-05-2012, 08:21

It will be interesting to see who is sacrificed to bring in the 4-5 players that the Blades will need to mount a significant attempt at automatic promotion next season.That is 4-5 players that add quality to the squad,not that have it treading water.
The biggest interest for me will be which 2 forwards will be brought in,and will money be spent on transfer fees for them.Season long loans are obviously a way to go,but I think Blades need an experienced player with PL experience on loan from a PL/CCC club,and DW has to go all out to try and secure one.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/18226954

Here's a team who have been busy already in the transfer market.No idea about the quality of players they have brought in,but Laird on a free can't be bad.

strangerthe6 · 28-05-2012, 11:13

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Originally Posted by chalga

It will be interesting to see who is sacrificed to bring in the 4-5 players that the Blades will need to mount a significant attempt at automatic promotion next season.That is 4-5 players that add quality to the squad,not that have it treading water.
The biggest interest for me will be which 2 forwards will be brought in,and will money be spent on transfer fees for them.Season long loans are obviously a way to go,but I think Blades need an experienced player with PL experience on loan from a PL/CCC club,and DW has to go all out to try and secure one.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/18226954

Here's a team who have been busy already in the transfer market.No idea about the quality of players they have brought in,but Laird on a free can't be bad.

I didn't realise Preston had been so busy in the market. I agree with the op's assessment although I don't think I'd offer Simmo anything. He was good on Saturday but seems very fragile mentally, when he makes an error he seems to go to pieces. We couldn't see from our end but someone who watched on tv said he looked petrified when he took the penalty.

The wage bill will come down as a number of players like Ertl, Taylor and Montgomery can go without weakening the team and Evans is obviously gone anyway. McDonald is one player who we haven't got a replacement for and I agree him and Doyle are a good pair. The main thing we lack I think is pace up front and on the wing, we haven't had this all season other than Phillips on loan as O'Halloran hasn't really had much chance to show what he can do. We've overcome this due to Evans sensational, and to most people, unexpected form. I read a report that Craig Brown had recommened Sony Aluko to Wilson on a free from Aberdeen but nothing came of it and he joined Rangers and looked good from what I saw, certainly more pacy and creative than Flynn.

Danny Wilson has got the best out of the players he inherited but he now needs to bring his own players in. In my view, other than McDonald his signings so far are only average players at the level we are at.

CorkerSWFC · 29-05-2012, 11:10

Just hearing Steve Simonson has been released...