Looking For Wing Tsun

JoJoSheffUK · 26-04-2012, 08:34

Hi I have been out of Sheffield for some time, and about to get back in a few weeks, and wanting to keep doing Wing Tsun, anyone know of somewhere in or around Sheffield where I can keep training. Please note Wing Tsun NOT Wing Chun

JoJoSheffUK · 26-04-2012, 08:35

I have been doing Wing Tsun for 2 years now.

SiSiSi · 26-04-2012, 09:00

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Originally Posted by JoJoSheffUK

Hi I have been out of Sheffield for some time, and about to get back in a few weeks, and wanting to keep doing Wing Tsun, anyone know of somewhere in or around Sheffield where I can keep training. Please note Wing Tsun NOT Wing Chun

What's the difference?

SiSiSi · 26-04-2012, 15:25

Come on, what is it?

JoJoSheffUK · 27-04-2012, 02:29

Put it this way, Wing Tsun came before Wing Chun, and many things were changed when someone started Wing Chun and commercialized it, it is not as good and missing many of key elements of the WT style of fighting, both are very good, but in my view WC is second rate to WT, as anyone that has done both will tell you. It is like taking a mercedes car and turning it into a Ford.

chefkicker · 27-04-2012, 08:01

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Originally Posted by JoJoSheffUK

Put it this way, Wing Tsun came before Wing Chun, and many things were changed when someone started Wing Chun and commercialized it, it is not as good and missing many of key elements of the WT style of fighting, both are very good, but in my view WC is second rate to WT, as anyone that has done both will tell you. It is like taking a mercedes car and turning it into a Ford.

Why is that and what techniques are missing in one that are present in the other?
Also which is hardest?
Most importantly which would kick which ones head in?

sada96 · 27-04-2012, 09:28

Come on, what is it?http://www.dubaa.info/hmp.gif

JoJoSheffUK · 27-04-2012, 11:34

WT would win every time, with two people having trained for the same amount of time.

Also I am moving back from Thailand, and kickboxing gets no where near to it at all.

I am not at that level yet, but mates are, and not seen any kick-boxer get near, and the Thai do try as they hate to lose face.

Gojuryuben · 27-04-2012, 11:50

I thought WT / WC was a self defence martial art ? if so how can you say that it would beat a Thai boxer / Kick boxer as there sports, hence have rules.
I could probably beat a profesional boxer, Thaiboxer or Kickboxer if I gouged his eyes out first or used his nuts as speed balls
Surely you can't say which one is best unless you had a no rules, anything goes fight, but even then I think it also has a lot to do the practitioner aswell not just the style.

SiSiSi · 27-04-2012, 14:10

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Originally Posted by JoJoSheffUK

WT would win every time, with two people having trained for the same amount of time.

Also I am moving back from Thailand, and kickboxing gets no where near to it at all.

I am not at that level yet, but mates are, and not seen any kick-boxer get near, and the Thai do try as they hate to lose face.

A rather bold statement methinks, given the company you're keeping on SF.

ShotoKarate · 27-04-2012, 14:40

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Originally Posted by JoJoSheffUK

Put it this way, Wing Tsun came before Wing Chun, and many things were changed when someone started Wing Chun and commercialized it, it is not as good and missing many of key elements of the WT style of fighting, both are very good, but in my view WC is second rate to WT, as anyone that has done both will tell you. It is like taking a mercedes car and turning it into a Ford.

I thought Wing Tsun was an Wing Tsun as it was developed by Leung Ting - apparently a former student of Yip Man.

There is Wing Chun in Sheffield but I think you will be hard pressed to find Wing Tsun.

JoJoSheffUK · 28-04-2012, 01:19

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Originally Posted by SiSiSi

A rather bold statement methinks, given the company you're keeping on SF.

As I said I am not at that level only been doing it a few years, but seen it here many times.

WT is NOT a self defense martial art, we do not defend we attack any space given, we do not fight force with force as at some point someone will always be stronger than you, we use their force against them.

Yes I think you are right it was developed by Leung Ting a former student of Yip Man.

SiSiSi · 28-04-2012, 03:42

Hang on, I'm confused now. You say that WT came first and was developed by Leung Ting. He was taught by Yip Man. So what did Yip Man teach him? I thought that Yip Man was a WC teacher.

general_head · 30-04-2012, 14:04

Does anyone in Sheffield teach Jeet Kon Do?

lotar · 30-04-2012, 15:49

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Originally Posted by JoJoSheffUK

As I said I am not at that level only been doing it a few years, but seen it here many times.

WT is NOT a self defense martial art, we do not defend we attack any space given, we do not fight force with force as at some point someone will always be stronger than you, we use their force against them.

Yes I think you are right it was developed by Leung Ting a former student of Yip Man.

don't understand... you go around attacking empty spaces ?

SiSiSi · 30-04-2012, 17:04

I rather suspect that the OP won't be visiting this thread again. Some 'awkward' questions have been asked.

JL86 · 30-04-2012, 22:45

I rather suspect that the OP won't be visiting this thread again. Some 'awkward' questions have been asked.

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That and no-ones really bothered to address the original question....

Wroughton · 30-04-2012, 23:11

Are Wang Chung still popular?

JoJoSheffUK · 01-05-2012, 09:31

Nothing awkward at all, just getting ready to move home, lots to do.

Empty space is to be attacked yes. Never give up ground, Always go towards the person's middle. If they leave a gap (space) between them and a target on the body then attract it, even better the space behind them. We do not hit a space on a body, but along a line, so even a inch punch will do big damage if you are hitting behind them.

As far as I know WT is the only martial art that trains you to fight all other martial art as well as street fighting (and also win in court if it get's there) Not that I would have that problem in Thailand, or had any fights here for that matter. I do not want to fight, just know how to if I must one day.

onewheeldave · 01-05-2012, 11:52

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Originally Posted by JoJoSheffUK

WT would win every time, with two people having trained for the same amount of time.

Also I am moving back from Thailand, and kickboxing gets no where near to it at all.

I am not at that level yet, but mates are, and not seen any kick-boxer get near, and the Thai do try as they hate to lose face.

I guess that explains the phenomenal success of wing-chun (sorry, tsun) fighters (sorry, tsun) in mma/cage fighting.