Breaking news,Ched Evans to appeal - Page 2

speedy69 · 24-04-2012, 20:27

Is he appealing the sentance or the verdict?

Robbie Loving · 24-04-2012, 20:29

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Originally Posted by Mr Bloom

Whilst there are some posters who buck the trend, it's uncomfortable to see so many partisan posts on such a sensitive and serious subject and I think that is one of the main reasons I'd like to see Ched Evans trial threads in the General Discussions section. It is national news, after all, and not primarily about football, the guy could have been a pop star, presenter, or from any profession.

Thread will remain here.

nikki-red · 24-04-2012, 20:31

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Originally Posted by speedy69

Is he appealing the sentance or the verdict?

Hes appealing against the conviction itself

HeadingNorth · 24-04-2012, 20:37

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Originally Posted by scoobydotcom

Anyway, Is Ched Appealing the decision outright? I was under the impression that he could only do so if new evidence had come to light?

He can launch an appeal on no grounds whatsoever, but if he were to do that the appeals court would refuse to hear it.

I have not read what his actual grounds for appeal are. His legal team may well not have made them public.

speedy69 · 24-04-2012, 20:39

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Originally Posted by HeadingNorth

He can launch an appeal on no grounds whatsoever, but if he were to do that the appeals court would refuse to hear it.

I have not read what his actual grounds for appeal are. His legal team may well not have made them public.

If there is new information it hasnt took long to materialise.

Billy Casper · 24-04-2012, 20:46

Can't understand the big fuss, he was always going to appeal.

I think it's a case of clutching at straws and with him obviously not being the brightest of fellas he will probably believe anything his misguided family, friends and in particular his girlfriend (who should have dumped him anyway for what he did to her) tell him.

He should be careful, he may end up serving even longer!

Grappler · 24-04-2012, 20:49

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Originally Posted by speedy69

If there is new information it hasnt took long to materialise.

Or someone else has come foreward with a new statement?

gnvqsos · 24-04-2012, 20:50

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Originally Posted by Billy Casper

Can't understand the big fuss, he was always going to appeal.

I think it's a case of clutching at straws and with him obviously not being the brightest of fellas he will probably believe anything his misguided family, friends and in particular his girlfriend (who should have dumped him anyway for what he did to her) tell him.

He should be careful, he may end up serving even longer!

Thats a bit harsh as I heard he was rather clever and gave out the shirts for the other players.What exactly did he do to his girlfriend-was she in the room as well?

sheff71 · 24-04-2012, 20:50

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Originally Posted by Billy Casper

Can't understand the big fuss, he was always going to appeal.

I think it's a case of clutching at straws and with him obviously not being the brightest of fellas he will probably believe anything his misguided family, friends and in particular his girlfriend (who should have dumped him anyway for what he did to her) tell him.

He should be careful, he may end up serving even longer!

Probably thinks it's worth that risk if it gives him a chance of freedom.

nikki-red · 24-04-2012, 20:51

If it did go to a retrial, would they be able to call McDonald as a defence witness?

HeadingNorth · 24-04-2012, 20:52

His lawyers may simply be arguing a perverse jury, given that one person who had sex with a woman that can't remember anything, and claimed she had agreed to it, was found not guilty, and aother person who also had sex with the same woman, and also claimed she had agreed to it, was convicted.

Unless and until the exact reasons for his appeal are made public, I'm not sure what good it does to speculate.

Billy Casper · 24-04-2012, 20:55

[QUOTE=gnvqsos;8806049]Thats a bit harsh as I heard he was rather clever and gave out the shirts for the other players.What exactly did he do to his girlfriend-was she in the room as well?[/QUOTE]

No, that was the problem!

gnvqsos · 24-04-2012, 21:00

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Originally Posted by nikki-red

If it did go to a retrial, would they be able to call McDonald as a defence witness?

I think this is a joke,but others may not detect it.

nikki-red · 24-04-2012, 21:01

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Originally Posted by gnvqsos

I think this is a joke,but others may not detect it.

Its a perfectly reasonable question

HeadingNorth · 24-04-2012, 21:04

It's an interesting one, from a legal standpoint; since Mcdonald was found not guilty and has to be regarded as completely innocent on all counts, then - were he to appear as a character witness - could they use his behaviour on that night against him? I don't know nearly enough about criminal law to answer that.

Dinkey · 24-04-2012, 21:12

If I was a partner of someone who wishes someone convicted of rape 'good luck', I would be seriously disturbed.

Robbie Loving · 24-04-2012, 21:18

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Originally Posted by HeadingNorth

It's an interesting one, from a legal standpoint; since Mcdonald was found not guilty and has to be regarded as completely innocent on all counts, then - were he to appear as a character witness - could they use his behaviour on that night against him? I don't know nearly enough about criminal law to answer that.

McDonald was found not guilty, not that he was innocent.

Billy Casper · 24-04-2012, 21:34

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Originally Posted by Dinkey

If I was a partner of someone who wishes someone convicted of rape 'good luck', I would be seriously disturbed.

Is it just me, or does this sentence not make sense?

Frank Sidney · 24-04-2012, 21:34

I don't know all the facts. If he's guilty he's in the right place. If there's new evidence and he's released, I'll be happy for him and he can resume his career. Somewhere else though I hope.

Frank Sidney · 24-04-2012, 21:36

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Originally Posted by Robbie Loving

McDonald was found not guilty, not that he was innocent.

By that logic then anyone found guilty could be innocent.